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Fun FF3/6 Question
« on: August 19, 2008, 11:07:38 AM »
In what order do you pick up characters in the WOR?

The list should always start with Celes in it (it's helpful to keep a count anyways).

While compiling the list, it helps to explain why you do it in that order.

I mean, maybe some of you skip picking up Sabin at the earliest chance!
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Re: Fun FF3/6 Question
« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2008, 12:30:47 PM »
My order always starts out like this:

Celes - :wink:
Sabin - :blits:
(fight Phunbaba 1 & 2, get Fenrir)
Edgar - :finger:
Setzer - :bah:
Terra - :sleep:
Gau - :happy:
Mog - :zemogus:
Locke - :lungs:

The rest becomes open ended.
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Re: Fun FF3/6 Question
« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2008, 12:48:27 PM »
Here's how I do it..

Celes
Sabin - might as well
Edgar
Setzer
Terra - yes, I do her side-quest for Fenrir
Gau - well, it doesn't matter if I get him before or after Terra, but meh to Gau
Cyan - only for the amazing Aegis Shield and he's just there for the ride
Gogo - I cannot live w/o the Steal command
Relm - Control ftw!
Strago - because it's the duh thing to do
Shadow - mini-meh of a journey - sometimes I do this after getting Mog+Umaro
Mog - worth the trip while having Strago
Umaro - on the way after getting Mog
Locke - takes too much effort to get IMO
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Re: Fun FF3/6 Question
« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2008, 09:19:30 PM »
I think this is the order I got them the last time I played, I may have a few swapped:

 :wink:
 :blush:
 :finger:
 :bah:
 :sad:
 :sleep:
 :happy:
 :shadow:
 :omg:
 :tongue:
 :childish:
 :cycle:
 :cookie:
 :lungs:

A cookie is playing the part of Gogo...or is Gogo playing the part of a cookie. :eek:

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Re: Fun FF3/6 Question
« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2008, 09:35:50 PM »
For a thought, but Terra's arguably the 2nd easiest (maybe 3rd) to obtain.. only because you just have to goto a straight boss battle once you get the airship (unless the story wasn't accelerated if a trip to Mobliz wasn't made prior).

Although, I remember one hack that forced me to avoid that trip to Mobliz because the boss used Merton...  :wtf:
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Re: Fun FF3/6 Question
« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2008, 12:14:22 AM »
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A cookie is playing the part of Gogo...

Hah...I was wondering how you got a cookie to join your team.  :happy:

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Re: Fun FF3/6 Question
« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2008, 08:53:23 AM »
For a thought, but Terra's arguably the 2nd easiest (maybe 3rd) to obtain.. only because you just have to goto a straight boss battle once you get the airship (unless the story wasn't accelerated if a trip to Mobliz wasn't made prior).

Although, I remember one hack that forced me to avoid that trip to Mobliz because the boss used Merton...  :wtf:

I'd like to know the name of that hack. this way, I can smack anyone who thinks it's good.

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Re: Fun FF3/6 Question
« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2008, 09:13:19 AM »
For a thought, but Terra's arguably the 2nd easiest (maybe 3rd) to obtain.. only because you just have to goto a straight boss battle once you get the airship (unless the story wasn't accelerated if a trip to Mobliz wasn't made prior).

Although, I remember one hack that forced me to avoid that trip to Mobliz because the boss used Merton...  :wtf:

I'd like to know the name of that hack. this way, I can smack anyone who thinks it's good.

It is archived at Zophar's... http://www.zophar.net/hacks/snes/final-fantasy-3/final-fantasy-vi-expert-version-2.html

FF6 Expert Hack version 2.

It was great, though I kinda wish I had version 1 for my amusement. The guy's website went down for whatever reason... so I don't know wtf happened to the author.

I don't recall any major bugs.. just a lot of interesting tweaks to say the least.
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Re: Fun FF3/6 Question
« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2008, 09:25:16 AM »
Thank you.

Also:

*gif of a guy smacking a person*
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Re: Fun FF3/6 Question
« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2008, 10:58:11 AM »
Eh?
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Re: Fun FF3/6 Question
« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2008, 11:47:46 AM »
I imagine in this case, I.S.T.'s the guy in his boxers and the creator of "FFVI Expert v2" is the dumb blonde.

...Swerving back on topic...
Personally, I think the story writers meant for you to do it like this...
Celes
Sabin (He's on the way)
Edgar
Setzer
Cyan (You follow the pigeon)
Gau (You're told of his whereabouts)
Shadow/Relm ("Hmm, I've never seen this cave here before. Let's take a look.")
Strago (In case you let Shadow die, you heartless bastard, Relm links to Strago)
Locke (The Emperor's Letter found at Owzer's)

That's about it for characters that link to one-another starting from Celes. As for characters that link to each other that aren't linked to Celes... Well, that's pretty obvious. Terra and Gogo link to no one, and Mog links to Umaro. Of course, everything stops at Shadow if you let him live like a sane man.

As for myself, I go like this:
Celes
Sabin (He's on the way)
Terra part 1 (Yay Fenrir)
Edgar
Setzer
Terra part 2 (I absolutely love Terra for unknown reasons. It's been like that since my childhood)
Mog (Yay, Molulu's Charm!)
Cyan (Yeah, from here on I go the way the developers push you)
Gau
Shadow
Relm
Strago
Locke
Umaro (Although I've only thought about it--I've never done it in practice--You get these two last so they get better stats. Umaro goes first because by now, I've gotten Mog, who links to Umaro)
Gogo (No love for Gogo :sad:)

Occasionally, I skip Terra part 1 and do both together after getting Setzer.
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Re: Fun FF3/6 Question
« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2008, 12:16:12 PM »
Gogo (No love for Gogo :sad:)

I'm never understood how people misunderstand Gogo.  Gogo's the one-person insta-make the party better character.

Let me bring out the negatives just so we get it out of the way.

1) He's a poor facsimile to many characters, primarily because Gogo can't use Espeers for stat growth.
2) The armor options just outright suck. For some reason, the FF6A devs overlooked giving Gogo a new piece of armor (seriously, Gogo needs it IMO). Tao Robe is probably the best solution and that's still pretty bad...
Note: If I forgot any other reasons, please let me know.

Ok, so those are the primary complaints, and I understand that.. yet, Gogo provides the following:
1) Insta-magic w/o having Gogo learn a thing. This is a freaking godsend! You will still have to pair Gogo with a character with all the available magic, but that's not a big deal in the grand scheme of things.
2) Attach the most useful commands for any situation. Find a battle, and you can make Gogo a boss wrecking machine, or an auto-win for regular battles. You can save command space since Fight nor Item needs to be used late game.
3) Mimic is the only command that duplicates other existing commands w/o having to equip the freaking thing in the menu! X-Magic, Steal/Capture, Control (this is rather unappreciated by many), Swordtech can be had w/o wasting a command slot. That's hard to complain about. It might not be perfect, but you can work with this in mind, especially when FF3/6 allows you the full control over command input, unlike the previous FF incarnations.
4) Gogo's totally overpowered..

Consider the following commands...
Blitz
Tools
Lore

None of these are exciting, yet they are handy for what they can do. Some people overlook this combo (at least I haven't), to producing the most overpowered anti-boss combo that have ever existed (works great in FF6A).

Blitz - If you can live with Bum Rush and Mantra, you're doing pretty well. Add Sabin and dual Mantra is a healing godsend.
Tools - Autocrossbow for regular battles and Drill for specific enemy targeting cannot be understated. However, people don't use the Debilitator enough in conjunction with..
Lore - There is one late game spell worth getting, and I wished it was available much earlier, but it can have the most use in FF6A. You may have heard of it.. it's called Forcefield. Neutralizing one elemental for everyone isn't sexy nor useful in theory. Combine this with the Debilitator and you can generally destroy any boss with ease. Yes, it is kinda slow to be useful since you have to waste a lot of MP and turns, but if you spend time with the more difficult boss battles in some hacks and FF6A, it's actually worth the time spent to make yourself nearly invincible... elementally anyways.

Then there's also Rage. If you needed a more powerful Gau (at least with physical rages) that doesn't need a Merit Award, Gogo is the perfect solution. This option beats out a lot of existing mindless solutions for making certain common/boss battles easier...

Anyways, Gogo may be 60% to 80% as effective as the original, but if you just level the person up enough (hint: Exp Egg), it's not that much different than the original character (other than characters that naturally equip overpowered swords), plus you can cover most deficiencies that your party has. That's something that no other character can vouch for.
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Re: Fun FF3/6 Question
« Reply #12 on: August 20, 2008, 12:54:18 PM »
Gogo (No love for Gogo :sad:)

I'm never understood how people misunderstand Gogo.  Gogo's the one-person insta-make the party better character.
...Um? I never said I didn't like Gogo... It was meant as a joke (Saved for last = no love). I actually like Gogo a lot--Back in my NMG days, Gogo, along with Terra and Celes, would always be on my team, basically making Gogo the Magic God. I'm sure you have some really good points in that post, but I'm afraid your attempts to convince me that Gogo's a good character are for naught, as I already think Gogo's a good character.
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« Reply #13 on: August 20, 2008, 01:00:30 PM »
Gogo (No love for Gogo :sad:)

I'm never understood how people misunderstand Gogo.  Gogo's the one-person insta-make the party better character.
...Um? I never said I didn't like Gogo... It was meant as a joke (Saved for last = no love). I actually like Gogo a lot--Back in my NMG days, Gogo, along with Terra and Celes, would always be on my team, basically making Gogo the Magic God. I'm sure you have some really good points in that post, but I'm afraid your attempts to convince me that Gogo's a good character are for naught, as I already think Gogo's a good character.

Sorry, I didn't see through the sarcasm.  :tongue:

I put Gogo at the top of my list of characters to use. It just bothers me when people think Gogo sucks (most don't try to combine useful commands+characters together).

Cyan is still probably at very the bottom of my list of "characters I don't care about"...
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Re: Fun FF3/6 Question
« Reply #14 on: August 20, 2008, 04:20:35 PM »
Eh?

You said it was great.

also, the gif is from an episode of Scrubs, the best sitcom ever.