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Re: Computer Blues (Containts teen wangst)
« Reply #15 on: May 17, 2009, 11:15:08 AM »
Quote from: Odbarc on May 17, 2009, 09:30:54 AM
I need to reformat but I don't know how and I don't want to lose things I'm working on. Mine's been pissing me off something fierce (random resets) loud clicking sounds, the fan going hay wire (I recently took a bunch of dust out of it, but it didn't help really).
I plan on buying a new one when SC2 comes out.

It sounds like you're having more problems than a simple reformat can solve (random resets are usually overheating, which makes sense if your fan is acting up). To reformat, all you really need to do is insert your OS CD, restart and boot from the CD, chose to reinstall (instead of repair), wipe your current partition and make a new one, then just install onto that partition. Windows installations are really straight forward, on XP and Vista there are like two prompts to select your language and region. You'll need to back up all of your important files unless you have the OS on a separate partition (you probably don't, if you just started using your computer "out of the box").
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« Reply #16 on: May 17, 2009, 12:18:57 PM »
I'm retarded, so I couldn't figure out what text I needed to reproduce. So, here's an image.

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Re: Computer Blues (Containts teen wangst)
« Reply #17 on: May 17, 2009, 02:20:11 PM »
You can buy a replacement stick of ram here:  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820141413

Two in a set, in fact
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Re: Computer Blues (Containts teen wangst)
« Reply #18 on: May 17, 2009, 03:55:43 PM »
On the subject of RAM, I'm debating whether to try upgrading past 2GB or not. According to NewEgg, when I bought this computer, my motherboard only supports up to 2x 1GB. I was looking at the manual for said motherboard earlier though, and that claims it supports up to 2x 8GB. I'm running the 32-bit version of Vista on a 32-bit processor here so there's little reason to go beyond 4GB now, but it's something to consider in the future rather than building a new PC (which was my plan once I had the money and the need for something more powerful). My question is, should NewEgg happen to be right and the manual wrong about this, will there be any ill effects to the board or the RAM itself? I want to be able to return RAM if it doesn't work.
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Re: Computer Blues (Containts teen wangst)
« Reply #19 on: May 17, 2009, 05:22:38 PM »
i don't think you would be able to if you go past whatever length newegg will cover the parts for.  not sure how long that usually is, but it should be easy to look up.

really, though, trust the manual over newegg.  the odds of a new-ish motherboard only supporting 2gb of ram are tiny.

and, vivify, you need memory so, so badly.  it's pretty cheap now, so you should be able to find a good deal.  if that machine had windows 2000 on it, it may take plain sdram(when did ddr come out?  i can't remember).  newegg still has some in stock. 

about the only thing you can do for the time being is to up the size of the paging file(virtual memory) and make it a static number.  for 256mb of ram, making the virtual mem 512mb(set init and max to 512) should do.  it won't make anything a LOT faster, but it may help a bit.
 
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as for anti-virus, avast! is better than avg and is free also.  i should really get around to putting that on this computer and get rid of avg...

also, for malware, malwarebytes' anti-malware and spybot s&d are nice.  spybot is nice for it's HOSTS file protection and malwarebytes' anti-malware is just really good in general at detecting and removing most anything.  i'm not much of an adaware fan, considering that the above mentioned programs will handle most everything it could.
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Re: Computer Blues (Containts teen wangst)
« Reply #20 on: May 17, 2009, 06:22:41 PM »
What's a partition?
I don't have my OS CD. It's one of those 'I used this CD for 100 computers' type of Windows XP that I no longer have access to.
(Over heating almost sounds like a problem except it happens when I turn on my computer. After like a minute, it'll reset once. It's not so much random as it is unexplainable.)

I tried Avast. Mine had a 60 day something or other before it would stop working or something. I got the AVG which is kind of annoying me in it's 8.0 [free] version as opposed to the 7.5 free version which recently expired (1 year free).
My biggest computer peeve is that I don't know much about the hardware to make any upgrade purchases or installments/replacements.
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Re: Computer Blues (Containts teen wangst)
« Reply #21 on: May 17, 2009, 06:53:33 PM »
avast! home edition is free.  you may have to re-register(which kinda sucks) once every like 15 months, but they don't charge you.

http://www.avast.com/eng/download-avast-home.html

for the hardware, you could download a program called cpu-z.  it'll tell you about your processor/motherboard/memory, and a few other things, i think.  that way, you'll know what you have and what you can buy.  it's free also.

and also, if you haven't since you got the pc, it would be a good idea to open it up and clean out the dust.(preferrably with canned air)  it very well may be overheating. 
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Re: Computer Blues (Containts teen wangst)
« Reply #22 on: May 17, 2009, 10:34:50 PM »
Over heating after being on for one minute?
I'm not so sure I trust avast. It's got spelling and grammar errors all over it. It, like all my other antivirus programs, seem to always find nothing.
Am I just lucky?
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« Reply #23 on: May 18, 2009, 12:59:38 PM »
yes, it can overheat that fast.  seriously, pop it open and clean it out if it's kinda old. it can make a huge difference.

and, i will begrudgingly admit that avast is better than avg(which i hate to do, since i've been using avg for a long time).  you should do some reading on both of their detection rates.  avg picks up like 93% of infections, while avast picks up something like 98 or 99%.

you may legitimately have nothing on your system.  i think a lot of them time people just randomly blame things on viruses because they either don't have a better culprit or don't know enough to make a good diagnosis.  now, of course, that isn't to say that viruses never effect people.  that just isn't true.  it's just not as prevalent as people think.  spyware and crap like that tends to be the more likely candidate for problems.  at least, that's true in my experiences both personally on family and friends' pcs and professionally on more large-scale domains and corporate networks.
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Re: Computer Blues (Containts teen wangst)
« Reply #24 on: May 18, 2009, 02:26:21 PM »
Quote from: Dragonsbrethren on May 17, 2009, 03:55:43 PM
On the subject of RAM, I'm debating whether to try upgrading past 2GB or not. According to NewEgg, when I bought this computer, my motherboard only supports up to 2x 1GB. I was looking at the manual for said motherboard earlier though, and that claims it supports up to 2x 8GB. I'm running the 32-bit version of Vista on a 32-bit processor here so there's little reason to go beyond 4GB now, but it's something to consider in the future rather than building a new PC (which was my plan once I had the money and the need for something more powerful). My question is, should NewEgg happen to be right and the manual wrong about this, will there be any ill effects to the board or the RAM itself? I want to be able to return RAM if it doesn't work.

Once you hit 4GB with a non-64-bit OS, you hit the wall, and "lose some of it"... that assumes you don't mind (I don't at the moment).

I would suggest you check your mobo's website and/or mobo's manual (usually downloadable) and/or a memory vendor's website. They generally list the fastest speed and sizes your mobo can support.

AFAIK, having bigger sticks of RAM for systems that don't/can't use it will "only read" a smaller size and the lesser chance of things blowing up in your face.

Quote from: vivify93 on May 17, 2009, 12:18:57 PM
I'm retarded, so I couldn't figure out what text I needed to reproduce. So, here's an image.

Are you using onboard video? The RAM you have seems rather low anyways. You should really really get more RAM (I'd say you're system should be able to run 1GB or 2GB at most.

Edit: Never mind, only 8MB seems to be lost on that.

I used to run Win2k on 512MB and later on 1GB... seeing you run on 256MB on XP makes me cringe.
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Re: Computer Blues (Containts teen wangst)
« Reply #25 on: May 18, 2009, 08:52:07 PM »
I wanna get a 2 GB, but my dad says they're too expensive. How much in actuality do they cost? Because like I said, my dad keeps saying he'll buy a replacement everytime he has to fiddle with my computer, but he never does. By the way, my dad also says that there's two of his acclaimed "memory sticks" in my computer. Seeing as how we've had it for a long time, I'm inclined to believe him, but is that possible?
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Re: Computer Blues (Containts teen wangst)
« Reply #26 on: May 18, 2009, 09:52:34 PM »
I linked you to a cheap 512 set of DDR RAM earlier. I'd get it.
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« Reply #27 on: May 18, 2009, 10:25:42 PM »
can you use that cpu-z program and confirm that it's ddr sdram(and not plain sdram)?  i know i'm being a pain asking every chance i get, but i want to see. if this computer had win2000 on it, it could very well have come with sdram.

and, yes, it could be 2 128mb sticks.

just post this:

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Re: Computer Blues (Containts teen wangst)
« Reply #28 on: May 18, 2009, 11:16:48 PM »
Quote from: vivify93 on May 18, 2009, 08:52:07 PM
I wanna get a 2 GB, but my dad says they're too expensive. How much in actuality do they cost? Because like I said, my dad keeps saying he'll buy a replacement everytime he has to fiddle with my computer, but he never does. By the way, my dad also says that there's two of his acclaimed "memory sticks" in my computer. Seeing as how we've had it for a long time, I'm inclined to believe him, but is that possible?

Define "expensive". If the price of the 4GB (a pair of 2GB sticks) of performance DDR2-800 costed me $80 (accidentally got the Tracer version of the Crucial Ballistix varient, but that's another story, I buy retail though...) and the Non-Tracer version is like $59 online (link - http://www.crucial.com/store/partspecs.aspx?IMODULE=BL2KIT25664AA80A ), then most certainly you can afford to fill all 4 slots with dirt cheap value DDR.

http://www.crucial.com/store/partspecs.aspx?IMODULE=CT2KIT6464Z40B - 1GB (a pair of 512MB sticks) for $50

If $50 is expensive, then  :wtf:

I would still suggest you run your mobo/system through a mem configurator (Crucial has one, other memory supplying websites have them) just in case you are unsure.

You don't need 2GB... just having 1GB would be mighty helpful (with the 256MB you already have).

For a thought, you can certainly goto a local retail comp store (that is not Best Buy) and buy 1 stick of 512MB DDR400 at about $24 retail (PNY is pretty generic).
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Re: Computer Blues (Containts teen wangst)
« Reply #29 on: May 19, 2009, 07:28:20 AM »
Quote from: Deathlike2 on May 18, 2009, 11:16:48 PM
If $50 is expensive, then  :wtf:
Prepare to  :wtf:. Yes, sadly enough, $50 is too expensive for my family. Hell, anything about $5 is too expensive.

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