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Re: NFL season (2010-2011) week 14!
« Reply #135 on: December 13, 2010, 12:04:21 AM »
Quote from: Deathlike2 on December 12, 2010, 11:52:17 PM

I was talking about the 06 Bears that made it to the SB. Only for a brief moment (only two consecutive games) that Cutler kinda looked like the responsible Orton on that run...

i miss Orton..  the passing offense is one of the Broncos' few bright spots this year.

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the Packers at Patriots game could be a great one, provided Rodgers is fully healthy.

I'm looking forward to seeing it... if I even get to see it.

it'll be airing on NBC, so it should be available to you.. or do you mean you'll be otherwise detained?

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I don't root for the Cowboys because of the senseless media love (mostly the Jerry Jones face time)...

yeah, that and the constant TO coverage that occurred when he was there really made me sick of the team.  i remember thinking, "these clowns can't even win a playoff game; why are they being fawned over?"

now that they're more of an underdog, they're more likable.  and Kitna's an old fart with a high completion percentage who can still put up some big numbers, which makes him fun to watch.
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Re: NFL season (2010-2011) week 14!
« Reply #136 on: December 13, 2010, 07:44:34 AM »
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I do take home field advantage seriously...
Three games have been in New York, 2 in cold weather. One game played in the dome.

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i miss Orton..  the passing offense is one of the Broncos' few bright spots this year.
Is it the system, or was it Chicago? It seems incomprehensible that Orton suddenly becomes Marino just by switching teams.
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Re: NFL season (2010-2011) week 14!
« Reply #137 on: December 13, 2010, 08:10:48 AM »
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I do take home field advantage seriously...
Three games have been in New York, 2 in cold weather. One game played in the dome.

I will say this. The Vikings generally do something to Eli that ultimately hurts him... stopping the run. He's one of those QBs that totally rely on the run for whatever reason (you need be a reasonable threat to run so you can run play action, establishing the run is needed if your QB sucks or is young)... his arm won't win games on any consistent basis. On the other hand, the current Vikings team are simply not the same team that Eli has faced in the past.. a weaker pass rush (and defense in general)... plus an aging Favre/a questionable Tavaris Jackson that somehow still doesn't get the system. These differences in the Vikings team make them far less dangerous than originally envisioned.

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i miss Orton..  the passing offense is one of the Broncos' few bright spots this year.
Is it the system, or was it Chicago? It seems incomprehensible that Orton suddenly becomes Marino just by switching teams.

One of the things I recall from the Bears through some of this time was that their receiving core was craptacular... and the run game that used to have Thomas Jones and Cedric Benson... both of which have been doing better in other teams since then. It's far easier to suggest that the Bears know how to build a defense... just not an offensive line and receiving core worthy of mention. I think the Bears receiving core is better now (with Olson, Hester, and Knox), but overall unimpressive because Cutler is another Favre... with an o-line that makes every part of that offense noticeably worse (it's bordering on the current Steelers o-line bad).

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I was talking about the 06 Bears that made it to the SB. Only for a brief moment (only two consecutive games) that Cutler kinda looked like the responsible Orton on that run...

i miss Orton..  the passing offense is one of the Broncos' few bright spots this year.

He's not so hot anymore, but he's the guy that would've made far more sense in the saner revision of the Mike Martz offense.


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the Packers at Patriots game could be a great one, provided Rodgers is fully healthy.

I'm looking forward to seeing it... if I even get to see it.

it'll be airing on NBC, so it should be available to you.. or do you mean you'll be otherwise detained?

I was talking about the Bears-Packers game... I lose my train of thought often, but I usually mean something else that tends to be related. Although, if the game (Bears-Packers) is occurring in the last week, the NFL will "fix" the schedule in such a way that competitive/important games are lined up for ratings and relevancy.... and then I can see that game.

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now that they're more of an underdog, they're more likable.  and Kitna's an old fart with a high completion percentage who can still put up some big numbers, which makes him fun to watch.

He's a backup QB for good reason. He had good years as a Bengal... and as a Lion. On the other hand, he gets pathetic the year after.
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Re: NFL season (2010-2011) week 14!
« Reply #138 on: December 13, 2010, 07:36:01 PM »
So, it's finally official. No more Favre+ironman streak talk. It's over! At least this is the beginning of the end for Favre...

On a related thought, IIRC in 08, I believe this was Forte's 2nd year... and it was asked on these boards about how he wasn't as effective as his rookie year. The failure to fix/improve this o-line is indirectly hurting Matt Forte. The problem though is that he's a pass catching RB (think Addai or Brown of the Colts) and it's really easy to make parallels to Forte (except Addai can block... I'm not sure about Forte though). So, this is something to think about if you're going to complain about what the Bears need to fix.
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Re: NFL season (2010-2011) week 14!
« Reply #139 on: December 14, 2010, 01:17:50 AM »
Vikings only score 3 points, plus the "home field advantage" today was really more like a "neutral field"... and it doesn't really seem like Tavaris Jackson is the answer....
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Re: NFL season (2010-2011) week 14!
« Reply #140 on: December 14, 2010, 04:23:50 PM »
Vikings are planning to play against the Bears in the outdoors of the University of Minnesota. "Home field advantage" eh?
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Re: NFL season (2010-2011) week 14!
« Reply #141 on: December 14, 2010, 10:45:28 PM »
the Vikings should hope it snows, and ask to borrow the Patriots' shoes.
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Re: NFL season (2010-2011) week 15!
« Reply #142 on: December 16, 2010, 07:53:44 AM »
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Week 15 schedule:
49'ers @ Chargers (Thursday)
Browns @ Bengals (division)
Redskins @ Cowboys (division)
Texans @ Titans (division)
Jaguars @ Colts (division)
Chiefs @ Rams
Bills @ Dolphins (division)
Eagles @ Giants (division)
Lions @ Buccaneers
Cardinals @ Panthers
Saints @ Ravens
Falcons @ Seahawks
Jets @ Steelers
Broncos @ Raiders (division)
Packers @ Patriots
Bears @ Vikings (division, Monday)
My picks: Chargers, Browns, Cowboys, Texans, Jaguars, Rams, Bills, Eagles, Buccaneers, Cardinals, Saints, Falcons, Steelers, Raiders, Patriots, Bears.
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Re: NFL season (2010-2011) week 15!
« Reply #143 on: December 16, 2010, 11:17:32 AM »
Quote from: Lenophis on August 14, 2010, 01:13:13 AM
Week 15 schedule:
49'ers @ Chargers (Thursday)
Browns @ Bengals (division)
Redskins @ Cowboys (division)
Texans @ Titans (division)
Jaguars @ Colts (division)
Chiefs @ Rams
Bills @ Dolphins (division)
Eagles @ Giants (division)
Lions @ Buccaneers
Cardinals @ Panthers
Saints @ Ravens
Falcons @ Seahawks
Jets @ Steelers
Broncos @ Raiders (division)
Packers @ Patriots
Bears @ Vikings (division, Monday)

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Chargers, Browns, Redskins, Titans, Jaguars, Chiefs, Dolphins, Eagles, Buccaneers, Cardinals, Saints, Falcons, Steelers, Raiders, Patriots, Bears

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Re: NFL season (2010-2011) week 15!
« Reply #144 on: December 16, 2010, 07:06:06 PM »
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Week 15 schedule:

Yay?

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49'ers @ Chargers (Thursday)

Chargers - This is a fight for survival for both teams. However, the 49ers are still not good enough...

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Browns @ Bengals (division)

Browns - The Bungles are a disaster... really. Although, does anyone believe Delhomme is the solution?

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Redskins @ Cowboys (division)

Cowboys - Despite the SNF loss, the Redskins are a worse team... and they may just start Grossman over McNabb.

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Texans @ Titans (division)

Texans - Does anyone feel sorry for Moss now?

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Jaguars @ Colts (division)

Colts - There's something about stats, where there's a discrepancy in the giveaway-takeaway ratio is simply striking for the Jags...

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Chiefs @ Rams

Rams - The lack of Cassel (which is looking somewhat doubtful) makes this pick flip-flop very easily.

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Bills @ Dolphins (division)

Bills - Contrary to what Rex Ryan said about their own d, the fish only scored 10 points off of turnovers. The fish are simply not that good... and neither are the Bills. At least the Bills can actually score at random intervals.... despite the fish are still able to get into the playoffs...

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Eagles @ Giants (division)

Eagles - The Giants lost day to the Vikings might be the unfortunate edge.

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Lions @ Buccaneers

Bucs - The strange win the Lions got is only that... strange.

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Cardinals @ Panthers

Cards - I guess there's potential for an upset, but the Cards are somehow the better team here...

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Saints @ Ravens

Saints - There's something really odd about this Raven defense where they give up so many points to bad teams... like the Texans or Bills...

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Falcons @ Seahawks

Falcons - Just bet on a double digit loss for the Seahawks. When they are losing, they lose big.

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Jets @ Steelers

Steelers - This game can potentially be closer than it should. It's a real battle of defenses and Big Ben is the better QB, but that o-line might just get Ben killed.

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Broncos @ Raiders (division)

Raiders - I don't think promoting the RB coach as the interim head coach sounds like a good idea...

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Packers @ Patriots

Pats - With the likely probability that Rodgers is not playing, one wonders how that Packers defense will hold up.

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Bears @ Vikings (division, Monday)

Bears - Leno, real football is played outdoors. Get a new open door stadium... blow up the lame Metrodome. Dome teams have not been tough enough (outside of insane QB play) to rise up to the challenge.  :tongue:
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Re: NFL season (2010-2011) week 15!
« Reply #145 on: December 19, 2010, 06:26:54 PM »
Records going into SNF (comments about the cool games following later):
Gil: 6-8
Leno: 6-8
Me: 7-7

Lucky me for an fugly week!
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Re: NFL season (2010-2011) week 15!
« Reply #146 on: December 19, 2010, 07:26:59 PM »
Ok, for the games I've watched today... they were all great.

Jags @ Colts was interesting... I mean it went either way... the no-fair catch for the Jags punt return for TD... and watching Collie get hammered out... There was too much 4th and whatever recklessness that went on in the game which ultimately cost them the game.. plus the failed onside kick returned for a TD. That was amusing by far.

Eagles @ Giants was kind of a snoozefest until Vick finally made stuff happen. It was nearly a give away game from Andy Reid's failure to challenge a key turnover but in the end... the Giants punter had some mental block and kicked it off to DeSean Jackson for the punt return TD win. There's something wrong with the Giants coaching when they fail to recognize the really high possibility of a onside kick which was executed perfectly.

I'm sure everyone that were able to watch the Jets @ Steelers game did not disappoint. It's bad when you lead off with a kickoff return for TD... and the key moment was ultimately the safety that forced the Steelers to have to go for it in the red zone on their last drive. Sanchez was OK... he didn't screw up, but the loss of Polamalu probably had some noticeable effect on that defense. So, go figure...

Anyways... this Sunday so far was excellent!
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Re: NFL season (2010-2011) week 15!
« Reply #147 on: December 19, 2010, 08:34:27 PM »
There were a lot more upsets this week than I cared for. :tongue:
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Re: NFL season (2010-2011) week 15!
« Reply #148 on: December 19, 2010, 04:02:10 PM »
This Packers team is better than I thought. I give the Packers credit for providing a great epic game.. that includes an onside kick to begin the game, letting a lineman nearly running for a TD on special teams, a pick six with lots of failed tackles, a very aggressive Packers defense, and a Packers offense that really looked like they had nothing to lose... except having bad TO management that caused the 4th and 1 at the very end that failed miserably. Matt Flynn is so much better than that awful Lions game... a worthy backup QB... at least for this game.
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Re: NFL season (2010-2011) week 15!
« Reply #149 on: December 19, 2010, 06:45:46 PM »
^ how the hell is this post timestamped 4 hours earlier than Lenophis' above it?!?

anyway, i watched the whole Packers/Patriots game, and it was indeed great.  as a Bears fan, i shouldn't be rooting for Green Bay, but Flynn was very impressive, and it was a frustrating loss.  i also saw the last 4+ minutes of the Jets/Steelers game (yet somehow missed the safety when flipping channels, argh); likewise very good.

EDIT: i see Deathlike2 already pointed out the time issue..  and to think, when the forum time was running 9 minutes fast until a couple weeks ago, i was very close to complaining. :/
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