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Re: NFL season (2009-2010), week 17
« Reply #90 on: January 03, 2010, 10:16:33 PM »
I'm sure Leno can figure out what matchup will occur that I really want to see...
If your picks hold up, the divisional round will be:
(6) Eagles @ (1) Saints
(5) Packers @ (2) Vikings
(3) Patriots @ (2) Chargers
(5) Jets @ (1) Colts

This year is going to have a lot of rematches...

It's a match that is of concern to you that I'm referencing. The Colts white flag game doesn't count, silly!
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Re: NFL season (2009-2010), week 17
« Reply #91 on: January 03, 2010, 10:28:32 PM »
Awsome!  I love being the underdog.  :happy:

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Re: NFL season (2009-2010), week 17
« Reply #92 on: January 03, 2010, 10:39:03 PM »
Awsome!  I love being the underdog.  :happy:

I rooted for the Cowboys to beat the Seahawks in Romo's first start... that game ended so horribly (not really his fault).

The second time when the Cowboys had homefield advantage... and yet lost to the SB-winning Giants. That should not happen to a #1 seed like that. I mean, the Cowboys beat the Giants soundly both times already.

Then there was the disaster known as last year... where only one team showed up to play.

The Cowboys are deservedly the underdog and it doesn't mean they have no shot.. but I'm very weary of picking them. Maybe it's TO's fault for the  Cowboys sucking (although, it's not always simply just one person)... but we'll see. It "looks' like a different team... that has to be shown on the field.
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Re: NFL season (2009-2010), week 17
« Reply #93 on: January 03, 2010, 10:50:59 PM »
I'm excited to play the Eagles again, and in our house.  The game is going to be great--and of course we will win.  :happy:

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Re: NFL season (2009-2010), week 18 - playoffs?!
« Reply #94 on: January 03, 2010, 11:19:15 PM »
Matchups are set:

(6) Eagles @ (3) Cowboys (Saturday, 8 pm EST)
(5) Packers @ (4) Cardinals (Sunday, 4:40 pm EST)
(6) Ravens @ (3) Patriots (Sunday, 1 pm EST)
(5) Jets @ (4) Bengals (Saturday, 4:30 pm EST)

NBC has both Saturday games, CBS and FOX have their respective conference games.

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Re: NFL season (2009-2010), week 18 - playoffs?!
« Reply #95 on: January 04, 2010, 04:50:20 AM »
Bengals lose huge to the Jets, Cardinals lose big to the Packers, and Eagles lose big to the Cowboys.  ... and all 3 match-ups are being repeated next week.  seems a bit suspicious, no?  maybe the "losers" were pulling a rope-a-dope?  those games weren't even close.  the wins were a bit too easy, weren't they?
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Re: NFL season (2009-2010), week 18 - playoffs?!
« Reply #96 on: January 04, 2010, 10:08:13 AM »
Bengals lose huge to the Jets, Cardinals lose big to the Packers, and Eagles lose big to the Cowboys.  ... and all 3 match-ups are being repeated next week.  seems a bit suspicious, no?  maybe the "losers" were pulling a rope-a-dope?  those games weren't even close.  the wins were a bit too easy, weren't they?

Well, you have 3 answers for 3 different games.

1) Bengals had nothing to play for and they didn't want to show up in the Meadowlands.

2) Cards didn't start Kurt Warner. Leinart sucks, full stop.

3) Eagles had the most to play for, like a first round bye (via the #2 seed), but managed to not bother showing up at all.. for reasons beyond anyone's comprehension.

Chances are, one team out of the bunch will lose again next week... and that would be the Bengals for me, but I really doubt all three losers will be losers again.
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Re: NFL season (2009-2010), week 18 - playoffs?!
« Reply #97 on: January 04, 2010, 03:32:06 PM »
The Bengals are the biggest pretenders out of this group, unfortunately. They lost games against the Broncos, Texans, Raiders, Vikings, Chargers, and Jets. Six of the ten wins are against the AFC North, and they only significant team they beat one could argue are the Packers.

But you know what the best thing is? There is no dominant team in the playoffs this year. Everyone has a weakness, which means we could very well have two 5 vs 6 seed championship matchups. But honestly, I'm not sure the Eagles, Packers, Jets, and Ravens could survive that long. :hmm:

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Re: NFL season (2009-2010), week 18 - playoffs?!
« Reply #98 on: January 04, 2010, 04:00:57 PM »
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But you know what the best thing is? There is no dominant team in the playoffs this year.

huh?  Colts?

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Re: NFL season (2009-2010), week 18 - playoffs?!
« Reply #99 on: January 04, 2010, 04:15:13 PM »
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But you know what the best thing is? There is no dominant team in the playoffs this year.

huh?  Colts?


They "just win", but that doesn't normally mean "dominant" like say the Bears defense in some aging SB run (and I don't mean the Bears-Colts SB). It's differently constructed anyways.

The issues though is that the Colts have been in this position before, and I doubt it helps the Colts in the long run. Last time Colts had a good seed, Chargers and Steelers have beaten them.. and the Chargers are arguably the most dangerous of them all (I don't trust their coach, but that's not entirely a bad thing). The year the Colts won is when Peyton was playing every game and had no bye week.

The Bengals are the biggest pretenders out of this group, unfortunately. They lost games against the Broncos, Texans, Raiders, Vikings, Chargers, and Jets. Six of the ten wins are against the AFC North, and they only significant team they beat one could argue are the Packers.

Bengals lost on a fluke play to the Broncos (ball bounced the Broncos way).
Chargers are on a 12 game winning streak...
Vikings were actually not sucking at the time..
Raiders beat 4 competitive teams this game, this group includes the Steelers (who are not going back to back), Eagles (go figure, Eagles are inconsistent), and the Broncos (who couldn't beat the Chiefs to even get a chance in the playoffs... and started the season 6-0).

I'm not saying that the Bengals are great, in fact I have more questions of them than the Cowboys. They seem very much like the AFC North division winners of the 05-06 season (the season the Steelers won), except one could argue that hit to Carson Palmer really did their season in.

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But you know what the best thing is? There is no dominant team in the playoffs this year. Everyone has a weakness, which means we could very well have two 5 vs 6 seed championship matchups. But honestly, I'm not sure the Eagles, Packers, Jets, and Ravens could survive that long. :hmm:

A team has to get really hot and fast... kinda like last year's SB run for the Cards.

The Eagles could do something, but there's something about McNabb that makes him fail when it matters.
The Packers are a much better team than most people are giving them credit for. Slow start and being pwned by the Vikings surely does change one Vikings fan impression of said team. Although, the swiss cheese game @ the Steelers were pretty epic.
The Jets have issues at QB, despite having a great defense and running game overall. He's just too turnover prone and he didn't spent enough time in college to deserve this kind of pub IMO. I believe even Flacco and Ryan spent lots more time as starting QB than Sanchez (1 year @ USC).
The Ravens do not have the same defense that Rex Ryan ran (teams can definitely pass on the Ravens).. in fact the Jets would be that (well, obviously). The team can do stuff, but it has the very huge tendency to self-implode via penalties. I've seen highlights of them losing to whatever team (Steelers, Bengals) on games where they should have won outright, but didn't for the aforementioned reason.

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My entire point is that a lot of the irrational statements made here do not always correctly put a game a team wins or loses into the proper context.
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Re: NFL season (2009-2010), week 18 - playoffs?!
« Reply #100 on: January 04, 2010, 05:08:37 PM »
huh?  Colts?
I'm the least confident about them winning. Yes, them playing in so many close games this year helps them, but they did what they normally do when things get locked up. Every time they did that, they flamed out in their first game. The only thing they have going for them is that they cannot play the Patriots in the divisional round. :tongue:

If they play against the Jets, they'll be against a team with a four-game winning streak. If they play the Ravens, they go against a QB that knows how to win in the playoffs, even if their defense isn't the same. If they go against the Bengals, Carson Palmer has the ability to rip them apart, though that likely won't happen.

The Saints aren't in any better a position, cause they haven't won since December 13. Momentum is very much against them.
The Vikings suddenly couldn't win a road game, and finished at .500 on the road. Their defense is also in shambles, because of the loss of EJ Henderson.
The Chargers play down to their competition, they have all decade. It hadn't mattered if it was Marty Ball or Norv at the helm, they yap more than they play.
The Patriots can't win a road game, and they'll have to go on the road if they beat the Ravens. Losing Wes Welker only adds to the problem.
The Cowboys haven't won a playoff game in 13 years, and have historically laid down in December in that span. They look dangerous this year, but they also looked dangerous when they were the number 1 seed a couple years ago.
The Bengals sometimes have an identity crisis, and don't know how to play offense.
The Eagles have not shown up to multiple games this year, and both games would have greatly helped them for playoff position.
The Cardinals lay down when the going gets rough. They need to play with the lead.
The Ravens aren't as good defensively as they were a year ago. Perhaps it's the loss of Rexy to the Jets, perhaps it's the loss of a bunch of players to the Jets in free agency, we don't know.
The Packers are on fire, but still have a questionable O-line. They haven't gone against a great pass rush in 4 weeks, so we'll see if that still holds up.
The Jets have a rookie quarterback. Historically that is a bad omen, Joe Flacco was the exception. They have a great rush attack and a great defense, but if they put it on Sanchez's shoulder, they will lose.

Despite all of that, all of them could win.

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Re: NFL season (2009-2010), week 18 - playoffs?!
« Reply #101 on: January 04, 2010, 07:02:31 PM »
The Saints aren't in any better a position, cause they haven't won since December 13. Momentum is very much against them.

For the sake of being devil's advocate, the Saints have lost steam on offense, and subsequently has "unhidden" the weaker defense that the Saints have. Momentum is only as good as your next game... a concept most overstated in baseball, but is very true to its meaning.

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The Vikings suddenly couldn't win a road game, and finished at .500 on the road. Their defense is also in shambles, because of the loss of EJ Henderson.

.500 is less of a big deal since you are the #2 seed... and even if the matchup ends with the Saints, you still play under a dome. I think you're overrating some aspects to downplay.. but it's apparent that the defense is being exposed due to injury. That's the reality.

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The Chargers play down to their competition, they have all decade. It hadn't mattered if it was Marty Ball or Norv at the helm, they yap more than they play.

Chargers have always been a 2nd half surging team.. this is not new from them.

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The Patriots can't win a road game, and they'll have to go on the road if they beat the Ravens. Losing Wes Welker only adds to the problem.

If the Pats were to play the Colts, all bets are off, but the only "huge" loss is the one with the Saints (and then the Saints go on their own losing streak). Losing Welker sucks, but the issues with playing on the road is an issue with the play calling... I don't think that's very fixable. This doesn't quite help a transitioning defense that has for the most part done what it needs to do.

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The Cowboys haven't won a playoff game in 13 years, and have historically laid down in December in that span. They look dangerous this year, but they also looked dangerous when they were the number 1 seed a couple years ago.

I still wonder if TO is ultimately the difference... or lack thereof. I would say they have one of the better pass rushes... when they actually do their job.

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The Bengals sometimes have an identity crisis, and don't know how to play offense.

Carson Palmer is the featured QB, but they are running the ball more for whatever the reason.. their offense is different than the one they have the last playoff appearance.

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The Eagles have not shown up to multiple games this year, and both games would have greatly helped them for playoff position.

How can you not beat the effing Raiders? :P

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The Cardinals lay down when the going gets rough. They need to play with the lead.

I would argue that this team is more like the Eagles... inconsistent and you really don't know what you're gonna get.

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The Ravens aren't as good defensively as they were a year ago. Perhaps it's the loss of Rexy to the Jets, perhaps it's the loss of a bunch of players to the Jets in free agency, we don't know.

It has to be a little of both, but their secondary simply isn't as good as the Jets.

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The Packers are on fire, but still have a questionable O-line. They haven't gone against a great pass rush in 4 weeks, so we'll see if that still holds up.

I thought I saw a great pass rush the last time I saw them.. I forget who they were playing though. Jared Allen makes any o-line look like mush.

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The Jets have a rookie quarterback. Historically that is a bad omen, Joe Flacco was the exception. They have a great rush attack and a great defense, but if they put it on Sanchez's shoulder, they will lose.

Flacco is the exception, not quite the rule. I don't believe in QBs (rookie or veteran) that throw more INTs than TDs in general, so bleh.
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Re: NFL season (2009-2010), week 18 - playoffs?!
« Reply #102 on: January 08, 2010, 03:59:19 AM »
Since it won't be any clearer Friday vs Saturday to pick, I'll just go ahead and do it now. Keep in mind, I'll have zero confidence in all of these.

Packers @ Cardinals: Cardinals
Eagles @ Cowboys: Cowboys
Ravens @ Patriots: Ravens
Jets @ Bengals: Bengals

Really, all of these are toss-ups. :scared:

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Some reasoning is in order, yes?

Packers/Cardinals: Honestly, I have no idea.
Eagles/Cowboys: History favors teams trying to beat an opponent three times in a season, a 12-7 record I believe. Division games are strange like that.
Ravens/Patriots: I think Brady being dinged up and Welker being out may be more of a factor than people will believe.
Jets/Bengals: The Bengals are too good to let what happened last week repeat itself.
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Re: NFL season (2009-2010), week 18 - playoffs?!
« Reply #103 on: January 09, 2010, 05:01:49 PM »
shit.. i was in the shower longer than i thought.  my picks:

1) Cincinnati (i realize i'm late with this officially.  but my January 04, 2010, 04:50:20 am post strongly hinted at 3 of my picks.  and the Bengals are trailing as i type this.  so can you guys please count this as valid?  :blush:)
2) Philadelphia (the Cowboys have dominated the Eagles this year, but i'm frankly sick of the Cowboys.  the year after the Giants won it all, pundits were picking Dallas to win the division and maybe the entire NFC.  presumptuous bullshit.  also, i grew weary of the weekly TO drama updates the media insisted on giving us.)
3) New England (i'm sick of these fools too.  but 8-0 at home is simply way too dominant.)
4) Arizona (i luv them.  they brought me two upset wins in the playoffs last year.  they're defending NFC champs, their defense has notably improved over last year's regular season, and while Rodgers is impressive, he lacks Warner's playoff experience.)

for further reasoning on picks 1, 2, and 4, see my January 04, 2010, 04:50:20 am post.  in a nutshell, by losing last week, these teams have their opponents right where they want them. ;)

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Re: NFL season (2009-2010), week 18 - playoffs?!
« Reply #104 on: January 09, 2010, 06:45:05 PM »
Jets/Bengals: The Bengals are too good to let what happened last week repeat itself.

Too good to not pass the ball effectively enough to do anything.

1) Cincinnati (i realize i'm late with this officially.  but my January 04, 2010, 04:50:20 am post strongly hinted at 3 of my picks.  and the Bengals are trailing as i type this.  so can you guys please count this as valid?  :blush:)

I'll give it to you because you lost miserably.

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assassin, here's a small note of interest. Both former Bears RBs were playing in this game. These are guys the Bears didn't want! I'm convinced that your o-line's been sucking too much to make any RB on your team effective for the most part (which in part has had an effect on Cutler). Cedric Benson had a career playoff game, AND Thomas Jones is the dependable RB for the Jets, especially statistically. You should be pissed @ the Bears for having it come to this.
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