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Re: Gamefaqs + eternal stupidity
« Reply #390 on: June 02, 2011, 12:49:47 AM »
Apparently I've been suspended, but I really don't know why. *shrug*

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« Last Edit: June 02, 2011, 01:23:12 AM by Imzogelmo »
5/31/16 - I have an assembly of the battle portion of C2, relocated to the F0 bank, which has both vanilla and patch code in my dropbox. I'll be updating it with additional patches as I have time. I will *not* be releasing it publicly, but ask me for the link and I'll share.

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Re: Gamefaqs + eternal stupidity
« Reply #391 on: June 02, 2011, 01:30:25 AM »
I get the feeling everyone in that thread got nailed. That thread was deleted once before, but the creator left a note to the mods after recreating it.

log in, click your username to see your Board User Info, then click Moderated Messages, then click on the relevant message.
My name is not clickable. :hmm:

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Re: Gamefaqs + eternal stupidity
« Reply #392 on: June 02, 2011, 02:07:46 AM »
Well, the thread no longer is even visible (don't ask how I know  :laugh:)

All my post in that thread did was basically regurgitate the Help page from GameFaqs regarding Piracy. I was not encouraging it, nor linking to it, etc. but merely pointing out how GameFAQs TOU is a little bit stricter than the actual law, and encouraging others to stay within the rules of the board.

Weird, suspended without ever even a warning. Kinda crazy.
5/31/16 - I have an assembly of the battle portion of C2, relocated to the F0 bank, which has both vanilla and patch code in my dropbox. I'll be updating it with additional patches as I have time. I will *not* be releasing it publicly, but ask me for the link and I'll share.

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Re: Gamefaqs + eternal stupidity
« Reply #393 on: June 02, 2011, 02:13:35 AM »
I still have it open from this morning. Unfortunately, it's only the first 10 posts cause I was logged out at the time... Your reply:

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Actually, copying a game yourself isn't illegal. Obtaining a copy of someone else's copy is (in many places).

And you can modify your copy in any way that you wish. Also not illegal in most places.
Furthermore, you can distribute a patch (provided it's a format which does not retain the original, copyrighted data) over the internet. That's legal everywhere, provided you do not help your users to violate copyright (they must have their own homemade copies).

Of course, a lot of the above is merely semantic, but the law is rather silly in some ways.

But if the discussion is about GameFAQs' rules, than it seems pretty clear from the latest TOS that it's not something they want discussed here. That itself also doesn't make it illegal. But it's always a good idea to follow the rules of the site you're on.

So yeah, I'm not seeing how anybody broke any rules here. :shadow:

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Re: Gamefaqs + eternal stupidity
« Reply #394 on: June 02, 2011, 05:00:56 AM »
Lenophis: then try logging in, and punching in this URL:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/user.php?board=554041

that should give you your User Info Page, unless that's somehow restricted from Suspended users.

ironically enough, the creator of the thread, Coontemptus, has not been Warned or Suspended (not that he should be).

Imzogelmo: you should contest yours too, if possible.

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Re: Gamefaqs + eternal stupidity
« Reply #395 on: June 02, 2011, 11:11:52 AM »
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/user.php?board=554041

that should give you your User Info Page, unless that's somehow restricted from Suspended users.
It is. :bah:

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ironically enough, the creator of the thread, Coontemptus, has not been Warned or Suspended (not that he should be).
Does somebody have it in for us? :banonsmash:

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Re: Gamefaqs + eternal stupidity
« Reply #396 on: June 03, 2011, 01:41:54 AM »
I'm disputing mine. My message in the dispute form was actually some of best writing I've done in a while, but that only matters if the person reading it has a brain and knows how to use it.

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My moderation was upheld, so I'm appealing it. Their logic is that since my signature had a link to Mnrogar's, and ROM hacking is discussed sometimes on Mnrogar's, that it was illegal activity. My retort is that discussion (much less linking to and off-site discussion) of ROM hacking is not forbidden under the TOU, provided that one does not ask for nor provide copyrighted ROMs.
« Last Edit: June 03, 2011, 04:19:55 PM by Imzogelmo »
5/31/16 - I have an assembly of the battle portion of C2, relocated to the F0 bank, which has both vanilla and patch code in my dropbox. I'll be updating it with additional patches as I have time. I will *not* be releasing it publicly, but ask me for the link and I'll share.

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Re: Gamefaqs + eternal stupidity
« Reply #397 on: June 03, 2011, 04:51:51 PM »
I've twice been moderated for something that was not against the rules until after I was moderated.  The NFL has the Rooney rule, Gamefaqs has the Matequillo rules.

I appealed one and the mod called me a name in the response.  I think the mods just back each other over there.

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Re: Gamefaqs + eternal stupidity
« Reply #398 on: June 04, 2011, 03:14:59 AM »
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I appealed one and the mod called me a name in the response.

there's a time where that probably would've gotten a mod dis-barred.  did you point out this behavior to the Admin?

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Re: Gamefaqs + eternal stupidity
« Reply #399 on: June 04, 2011, 03:29:12 AM »
Lenophis and Imzogelmo: if there was any doubt as to who flagged your messages:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/10-ask-the-mods/59296298

my money's on this shitheaded zealot.  now, he's even lobbying to get a long-standing FAQ removed, despite FAQs being under a totally different rule system than the messageboard Terms of Service.  and scarier yet, one mod is actually indulging him!  i'm still convinced that anybody made a moderator after ~2004 is clueless.

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Re: Gamefaqs + eternal stupidity
« Reply #400 on: June 04, 2011, 03:40:11 AM »
a third post (sorry): regardless of what a privately-run site wants to prohibit, i have a real problem with stuff that isn't actually illegal being lumped under the "Illegal Activities" category.  they should really add an "Inquisitive Behavior That Triggers Our Sense of Moral Outrage" category.  it's not their right to be declaring laws as more wide-reaching than they actually are.

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Re: Gamefaqs + eternal stupidity
« Reply #401 on: June 04, 2011, 07:44:16 AM »
After checking my "system notifications," it turns out my sig was removed from messages for the past 6 posts or so, then entirely from my profile. After investigation, my quote was removed too, "I got your quote right here." Now, keep in my mind my sig was saying "To check out a list of the bugs we've fixed for Pandora's Box, check here:" with a link to the thread at Mnrogar's. If the sig was taken completely in context, the DMCA does not prohibit talking about bug fixes, or what one does on their spare time. Considering that the thread hasn't been posted in since 2009, and with no real hacking talk at all other than showing off what we've done, I really have to wonder what "illegal activities" we committed (ie, we didn't).

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Re: Gamefaqs + eternal stupidity
« Reply #402 on: June 04, 2011, 11:43:12 AM »
My turn to double post:

After writing a rather lengthy explanation for my dispute, I clicked on it and got the following message:
"Dispute Not Allowed"
"You can only dispute a moderation within 72 hours after the moderator's action."

I was suspended for most of that time. Now I remember why I was hesitant to sign up there in the first place. :bah:

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Re: Gamefaqs + eternal stupidity
« Reply #403 on: June 04, 2011, 12:43:00 PM »
Well, I've argued it 3 times now; it's going to the final appeal to the admin.

In my most recent appeal, I made 10 points, and in one of them, I essentially accused GameFAQs of hypocrisy. They say I am responsible the content of whatever I link to, and that it cannot violate TOU. If that is the case, then GameFAQs breaks its own TOU, because several faqs have vulgarities, humor defined under the TOU as "patently offensive", etc. And GameFAQs links to those!

As an aside, the TOU only prohibits 2 kinds of links: Linking to sites with vulgarities, profanity, hate speech, etc.; and linking to sites with pre-release alpha or beta material. I hardly think my link to Mnrogar's Den qualifies in either case.
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Re: Gamefaqs + eternal stupidity
« Reply #404 on: June 04, 2011, 01:38:15 PM »
With no insight or inside info, you're gonna lose. This is Gamefaqs after all.
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