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angelo26

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El Nino to El Ni?o
« on: November 03, 2010, 04:01:58 PM »
I'd like to create the letter ? in the rom so I can fix one of Mog's Water Rondo Attacks, "El Nino".

I know that C3 is the byte for the ' sign,  if I choose a byte that is has no icon or information on it I can create the letter, but the question is How??

The same goes for the display of GP on the menu (that is, if I want to change it to Gil instead of GP), I know I have to find a byte that has no information to create the "il" part of GIL, but how can I do it??

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Re: El Nino to El Ni?o
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2010, 05:25:56 PM »
The VWF subtracts #$60 from the FWF equivalent, which is about the only free space you have for new characters. Of course, this means the VWF letter goes into the DTE area... That won't be a problem, though, since battles don't use the DTE.
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Re: El Nino to El Ni?o
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2010, 06:27:14 PM »
Let's see... I think I understand the thing about variable width font minus the fixed width font (sounds like there's not much space for new letters). 

If I use a program like YY-CHR I will be able to introduce the new letter, the question will still be, where exactly..

OR another option will be replacing an existing letter or symbol. I think the # symbol, though included in the game, isn't used at all...
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Re: El Nino to El Ni?o
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2010, 06:34:48 PM »
Just to make sure I'm clear, the characters #$10-#$7F are all free in the FWF. The DTE uses #$80-#$FF in the VWF. Subtract #$60 from the FWF to get to the VWF.
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Re: El Nino to El Ni?o
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2010, 08:48:23 PM »
Hey Leno, did we plan to put the ? into Pandora's Box as well?
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Re: El Nino to El Ni?o
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2010, 09:09:01 PM »
Yeah, we did plan on it.
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Re: El Nino to El Ni?o
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2010, 04:34:40 PM »
 :sad:The only thing I understand is that the Game uses Variable Width Font. I had no idea the game had Fixed Width Font, and I don't know what DTE is... :isuck:

I still want to be able to figure this out, could you explain a little bit further?

The only thing I was able to figure is that the characters A,B,C....are in the address 48FC0.
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Re: El Nino to El Ni?o
« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2010, 06:36:22 PM »
The address you just gave is where the FWF is. Fixed-width font, and in FF6's case, 8x8. DTE is Dual-tile encoding, 2 letters for 1 byte. The dialogue primarily uses it. That's all there is to it.
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Re: El Nino to El Ni?o
« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2010, 06:05:10 PM »
why is the enn-yay (the n with the squiggle over it) showing up for me as a "?" in every post besides mine?

El Ni?o.

are other people experiencing this?  maybe it's a Unicode versus high-ASCII issue.. ?
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Re: El Nino to El Ni?o
« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2010, 07:46:16 PM »
I have the same problem as well...English doesn't recognize the letter because its only widely used in spanish?

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Re: El Nino to El Ni?o
« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2010, 07:59:00 PM »
The enn-yay is appearing as a question mark in every post that I see, including assassin's. I've tried changing encodings too, but to no avail.

Test....?

Alt+0241 is what I used above. It looks fine in preview, and then turns into a question mark after posting.
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Re: El Nino to El Ni?o
« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2010, 10:27:45 PM »
It's a question mark on my end, too. I suspect it's SMF's fault, but I don't know for sure.
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Re: El Nino to El Ni?o
« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2010, 12:31:28 AM »
Alt+164 is what i used.  i didn't realize its appearance would change between preview and the finalization of my post; weird.

El Ni?o
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Re: El Nino to El Ni?o
« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2010, 04:36:46 AM »
?El Ni?o? Touch

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Strangely enough, it previewed fine, but my accented e just disappeared, while the rest became question marks. I have a feeling this is a MySQL problem, and maybe not SMF's...
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