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A Request for Entroper
« on: March 03, 2008, 05:47:06 PM »
Entroper, any chance of getting a dump of the entire spell list for FF4A?
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Re: A Request for Entroper
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2008, 07:37:55 PM »
I don't think I have that data.  I'll check, though.  I might be able to find it if I don't have it already.

EDIT: Looks like it's time for a ROM search.
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Re: A Request for Entroper
« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2008, 10:07:14 PM »
My friend has an updated version of our chart.  A lot of the info in this is untested, but most of it looks pretty good.

http://entroper.no-ip.org/TheBatcave/FFRev2.xls
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Re: A Request for Entroper
« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2008, 10:18:45 PM »
Awesome, I'll look into the numbers and see how that matches up with the SNES version.

One thing, the other file you uploaded... the item section. There's a section of items with a column filled with 8.

I believe the 8 stands for the item's "spell power".
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Re: A Request for Entroper
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2008, 10:36:17 PM »
In your Spells table, Column E is for curHP/maxHP base damage algos.

Column F is hit rate.

I'm decyphering Column H at the moment, it seems to contain the Boss Bit that I was talking about in a different thread.
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Re: A Request for Entroper
« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2008, 10:42:23 PM »
The highest bit (or lowest bit if you count differently) is the boss bit. When that number is greater or equal to 128, that signifies
that the spell is boss compatible.
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Re: A Request for Entroper
« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2008, 11:34:50 PM »
A quick list for Column H:
1 = Castable in Main Menu
2 = Castable in Battle
16 = "Machine Resistant", but seriously, that's not an accurate description.. the value matches that of what the FF2/4 tool reports, so take that for what it is worth
32 = Something Item specific... dunno yet, but I'm tired to figure out more.
128 = Boss Bit (works vs Bosses)

Refer to this thread for the "Machine Resistant" bit: http://slickproductions.org/forum/index.php?topic=370.0
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Re: A Request for Entroper
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2008, 05:02:18 AM »
Another request... update the findings against the European version. I wonder if Poison/Venom spell changes... (AFAIK, the poison bug was fixed).

It would be nice to know Yang's HP growth beyond level 60 anyways...
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Re: A Request for Entroper
« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2008, 05:28:36 PM »
Is the Double Meteor value a typo? It says 20 for the power... and that doesn't sound right.
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Re: A Request for Entroper
« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2008, 09:18:46 PM »
It's a ROM dump, so there shouldn't be any typos.  I don't know why that has 20 spell power, but it's reasonable to think that double meteor has some kind of special feature.
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Re: A Request for Entroper
« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2008, 09:42:27 PM »
AI can change magic power, so it's possible that the game is upping the magic power of whatever is casting Double Meteor for it to do high damage. However, this is a total guess, and isn't to be taken seriously.
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Re: A Request for Entroper
« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2008, 09:49:01 PM »
Quote from: Lenophis on March 08, 2008, 09:42:27 PM
AI can change magic power, so it's possible that the game is upping the magic power of whatever is casting Double Meteor for it to do high damage. However, this is a total guess, and isn't to be taken seriously.

AI can change the spell multiplier (magic stat), but not the power of the spell.

There's another Meteor mentioned in the spell list, and that's probably the one used by Zeromus... but you know the sad part is that even though it is beefed up, if you are at level 99 and maxed your magic defense multiplier enough, it still won't hit.

Sad, but true.
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Re: A Request for Entroper
« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2008, 09:10:41 AM »
I just realized that you missed a spell entry (Hold)... oh well.
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Re: A Request for Entroper
« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2008, 02:38:45 PM »
Perhaps I might have missed it in the spreadsheets.. but the spell power of the weapon cast spells are not listed. I think Paladin's data should match up with something in the FF4A ROM.
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