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Final Fantasy V Research & Development / Re: Legend of the Crystals
« on: January 04, 2015, 03:19:04 AM »
...Sigh...

Be more specific. And please proofread your posts. I'm depending on you to give me instructions, Digitsie.

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Final Fantasy V Research & Development / Re: Legend of the Crystals
« on: January 03, 2015, 05:21:12 PM »
Another person I checked with says you want 'The wind... stopped?' to indicate surprise, make it a bit more apparent.

This works, it gives the impression that Faris is hunting for a word to describe something she's never experienced before.

I like it. Done!

How about Galuf's line "gotta take me with?"

Edit: I changed it to "Please, take me with you!" It just barely fits, and the indents are still there.

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Final Fantasy V Research & Development / Re: Legend of the Crystals
« on: January 03, 2015, 10:47:14 AM »


Hey chief, what about this line? Do you know what this kanji is? The rest I can probably read with my dictionary, but I have no kanji chart.

By the by, I'm using this book: http://www.gettextbooks.com/isbn/9780679780014

:) Just in case you were wondering. I don't remember where I even got this thing.

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Final Fantasy V Research & Development / Re: Legend of the Crystals
« on: January 02, 2015, 05:19:29 PM »
Not by me. Vivify93 could probably do it, but that'd require re-editing the table file to include a new entry for your new monospace ellipse.

Update: Dropbox has stopped playing nice with your IMG tags, so I switched to imgur. :D



Here is the first line of the game. This is how nametags are handled in the JP version. No colon, just a space, an Open Quotation Mark (That's what I think that is?), and the line.



If I had to make an educated guess, I'd say that's the Kanji for "King."



I included this because you guys don't like "The wind... it's gone" so here is what she is saying. If you know Japanese or know someone who does and will look at this, tell me what it says, and I'll try to come up with something. Sound good?



Galuf is not named yet, I guess for plot reasons or something.



This is, in the English translation, the King shouting "What!?" or something. This is weird...his nametag has changed to "Tycoon King."



There's Lenna's nametag again. Bartz is about to announce his name.



Bartz' lines are never preceded by a nametag, it doesn't look like. Just that bold open quote that nobody else gets to use.



I whipped out my Katakana chart and looked up "Ba" and "Tsu." Did I get it right? Do I get a gold star?



Here's what Boko's name looks like. It's the second and third symbols from the left.



Here Bartz uses Boko's name.



Here's Boko's first line. His nametag is not present either, just the same open quote that everyone uses. What he's saying looks like (according to the chart I'm using) "ku" "e" and another character that resembles a smaller version of the Hiragana "tsu." I don't know how to pronounce that, but it's apparently the noises that Boko is making, i.e. "Kweh," "Wark," etc.



Bartz berates Boko, and Boko just makes the same noise again.

No nametag for either of them. I'll play up to the Wind Temple and check on the King of Tycoon's speech later.

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Final Fantasy V Research & Development / Re: Legend of the Crystals
« on: January 02, 2015, 04:02:24 PM »
Uh, are images broken? Does Slick Productions not recognize dropbox links or something?

I have screenshots from the JP version, but how do I post them?

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Final Fantasy V Research & Development / Re: Legend of the Crystals
« on: January 02, 2015, 02:35:23 PM »
Right. So the question:

Should -all- Boco stuff be just in quotations, or spelled out with 'Boco:'?

Same with King Tycoon? (the dying scene is what I'm thinking of.)

I got the stuff going, just will poke at it later.

Score!! :D We're totally gonna do this

I dunno, really. It seems as though naming a character as they are speaking is reserved for only really important people or something? I could try playing the JP version for a little while and see what I come up with, if you'd be willing to use that as a base for these decisions.

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Final Fantasy V Research & Development / Re: Legend of the Crystals
« on: January 02, 2015, 01:52:45 PM »
Here are instructions for how to see what I am seeing. Note: Put all of this stuff into a new folder, name it whatever you want. 'FF5-LOTC' or whatever.

1) Get WindHex. Recommended by KaioShin of all people.

2) Get a copy of Final Fantasy 5 from you-know-where.

3) Apply the RPGe patch. LunarIPS ought to do it.

4) Apply my patch over the RPGe patch.

5) Open WindHex from step 1.

6) Load this copy of FF5 (steps 2-4) into WindHex using the first option on the "File" menu.

7) Take this table file from me.

8) Load this table file I have just given you in step 7 into WindHex using the second option on the "File" menu. There's an additional dropdown, select Table #1 because it doesn't matter.

9) Grab the slider on the left hand side of the WindHex window and pull it down till you reach the line that reads 00210000. This is where the dialogue starts.

That's all. Go ahead and give it a try, and if you have any problems, I'll help you.

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Final Fantasy V Research & Development / Re: Legend of the Crystals
« on: January 02, 2015, 11:31:06 AM »
1) This is kind of a personal preference issue, but will you include bullets for the separate entries in the lists you make? Be real helpful for me.
2) None of what I'm about to say represents any kind of ultimatum, I just need more information.

Galuf:  I must go.($01)  You gotta take me with

(add you! after 'with')

There will only be enough room on this line for this word if I eliminate the indentation at the beginning of the second sentence. There are two spaces before, and two spaces after. That's it. Just enough room, and it screws the formatting of the original. What would you like me to do? Change the phrasing of the line?

Wark!  Wark, wark!

(add Boco: before that.)

Is this in the Japanese version? I thought he wasn't named because he is an animal. Would quotes around his text work just as well?

all the Goblins around here...got ($01)  it, Boco.

(Add space before 'got')

Done.

Boco, let's hurry!
Wark!
(add Boco: before Wark!)

See above.

Lenna:  ...Keep going!

(space before 'Keep')

Done.

Bartz:  Boco, it's dangerous ($01)  ahead.  You've got stay back ($01)  here.($00)Wark!

(Suggest 'You've got to stay back', or 'You stay back'.  Add 'Boco:' before 'Wark!')

Changed to "You've got to stay here." As for nametagging Boco, see above.

Let's go, Boco!($00)Wark!
(Boco: needed before 'Wark!')

See above.

Lenna:  I wonder if we couldn't get($01)  a ride?

(sounds awkward. Should it be 'could get a ride'?)

"I wonder if we could get a ride" isn't a question.

Lenna.  I apologize for trying to ($01)  commandeer your ship. Parlay!


(Parlay has to be a misspelling. It's either 'Parley', or you could use 'Peace!' The other script just leaves off this word altogether. you can also just say 'take' instead of commandeer.)

I took this from Pirates of the Carribean...pirate stuff. Idk. Is it with an e? I'll look it up...

Yes you are right. Done. As for "take" instead of commandeer, I think it makes Lenna sound more royal the better you make her vocabulary.

Aye Cap'n! ($00)Galuf:  This is great...  who the ($01)  heck said we should steal a    ($01)  pirate ship?!


(Extra space after '...' there, if bytes matter.)

It's going to be either a letter or FF for a space, so no they don't. Spaces take up a byte too. But it looks sloppy, so done!

Just leave it to me!($00)Wark...


(Boco:, as usual, pre-Wark)

See above.

Lenna:  Faris........

(too many...'s? or add some spaces between every three)

I hope this is where you mean it is. You aren't being very specific. I think you mean the part where there's a beat before she says, "C'mon!" and they set off for the top of the Wind Temple, right? I inserted spaces between each set of 3 periods. Trivia: Apparently ($0C) is some kind of opcode.

Lenna:  The Crystals' Spirits?($00)... Le... Lenna....($00)

(too many .'s? also, this section seems like you should preface things with "King Tycoon:" when appropriate.

What do you mean?

Listen well.($01)  You are the chosen warriors...($01)  The four who hold the spirits.($01)($01)Lenna:  Father!($01)  What do you mean?($00)The Wind Crystal has shattered.  ($01)  And it seems as though the other($01)  three Crystals will as well.($01)($01)You must protect them!  An evil ($01)  spirit is about to return...($01)($01)($01)One that will plunge all into ($01)  darkness...($00)Lenna:  Father! ($00)Go!($01)  Chosen warriors...($01)  Protect the Crystals...($00)Lenna:  Father...!  ($00)Lenna:  What are these?($01)($02):  Pieces of the Crystal?($00)            The Crystal Pieces($01)         These hold the powers($01)          of the ancient heroes($01)             that dwell within.($01)($01)                     Knight($01)                   Black Belt($01)($01)($01)                  Blue Mage($01)                      Thief($01)($01)($01)                 Black Mage($01)                 White Mage($00)($02):  Pieces of Crystal...($01)  They're lending us their power?($00)Galuf:  Let's talk later.  We need to($01)  get out of here.($00)Faris:  Lenna...($00)Lenna:  If I remember correctly, ($01)  there should be a warp gate to ($01)  the outside behind the altar...($00)  How to use the Pieces of Crystal($01)Would you like an explanation of ($01)  the Job/Ability System?($00)($01)               Final Fantasy V($01)            Job/Ability System($01)($01)The warriors chosen by the ($01)  Crystals gain the powers of the ($01)  ancient heroes that rest within ($01)  them.($01)Thus they are granted 'Jobs'.($00)By using a Job, each of the four ($01)  warriors can gain special skills of($01)  that Job.  These we call 'Abilities'.($00)When you select a Job or any ($01)  Abilities, your equipment will, for ($01)  a moment, be removed.($01)($01)Don't worry... It will automatically ($01)  be re-equipped with optimal ($01)  equipment.($00)By combining Jobs and Abilities ($01)  skillfully, you can create new ($01)  types of characters.($01)($01)You might make a 'Black Mage ($01)  that can Jump', or a 'Knight that ($01)  uses White Magic'.($01)($01)As an example, let's create a ($01)  'Knight that uses White Magic'.($01)($01)($01)First, select the 'White Mage' for a($01)  character's Job.($00)Then, as you gain Ability Points ($01)  (ABP) in battle, you will eventually($01)  earn the White Mage's Ability ($01)  'White'.($01)Next, change the character's Job ($01)  to 'Knight', then select 'White' ($01)  from the Ability menu.  Select ($01)  equipment for your knight...($01)And now you have a 'Knight that ($01)  uses white magic'!

What is this?

($00)Wark!($00)Wark!

(Boco:  as usual)

See above.

... Hic! ...


(Simplify to '...hic...!')

Where is this!? Next time you make a list, can you give me some context?

I found what I think you're talking about. I kept the capitalization, since I'm not sure if it starts a sentence or not. Done (sort of).

Faris:  Lenna?!....($01)   


(Shorten to three ...)

I'm sorry, but just reading from a text dump is going to make this take forever. This will go much faster if you record the addresses of the lines you want me to change by looking at them in WindHex. I have no idea where this line is.

:D I am having such a good time right now.

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Final Fantasy V Research & Development / Re: Legend of the Crystals
« on: January 02, 2015, 08:51:00 AM »
I'm only posting here to let you know that I'm paying attention.

You don't happen to have a batch of edits for me yet, do you?

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Final Fantasy V Research & Development / Re: Legend of the Crystals
« on: January 01, 2015, 11:40:23 PM »
Um, I got a text dump, but it's a gigantic freaking wall of text!

How can I format this thing?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/dohz1r4s392tj0c/LegendOfTheCrystals.txt?dl=0

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Final Fantasy V Research & Development / Re: Legend of the Crystals
« on: January 01, 2015, 11:24:38 PM »
One more question - is it even possible to get a text dump to look at?

Maybe. I'll try it, be back in a few.

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Final Fantasy V Research & Development / Re: Legend of the Crystals
« on: January 01, 2015, 06:05:27 PM »
...That's it? :/

You sure you don't want to play it a little further in and see what else you may want changed?

I'd really like more community input into this script, I guess is what I'm saying.

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This 'midwestern' tang Garuf had I mentioned before! :D

Aside from that, you mentioned finding a mistake in your patch a long time ago that you never fixed?

http://www.romhacking.net/forum/index.php/topic,17669.40.html

Also, 'pure' seems like a decent suggestion, but Detox works as well.

(And yeah I know what you mean about trying to track the minimum flow fix. I'm leaving that to assassin to clarify so I can update the 1.1 patch.)

I don't remember what I was talking about in that post. Lenna has a line after the worlds re-merge, yet doesn't appear in that scene? :/

It'll have to wait until I'm back in the swing of things.

Basically, I'll change any line you want, but you have to tell me what you want it changed to, and I'll see if there's space and get back to you. If there is space, I won't bother saying anything, I'll just make the change. Sound good?

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I just wish people would include more metaphors for things they're talking about when it comes to programming. Metaphors are a clarification aid, their use isn't solely for poetic purposes.

Edit: Um, you guys wanted me to fix some stuff with the script right!

I'm yer huckleberry, tell me what you want.

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An uneducated idiotic response to this is that you guys are arguing over whether one bit should be set to 1 or 0?

:| I'm way out of my depth here. I just edit scripts.

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