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Baby Zeromus?
« on: October 22, 2015, 11:47:53 PM »
With the forum being on the quiet side this time of the year, I thought I'd throw something out here I didn't see mentioned anywhere.

While going through the WSC ROM, I noticed a monster that wasn't in the game. I decided to replace the Imp graphics and palette with those of said monster and took a screenshot:



Maybe some kind of leftover from the testing phase?

Later I worked with the SNES ROM and there it was again!



I never even noticed this before! I played the game a million times - I know this isn't in it.
Did you guys know about this? What could it be?
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Re: Baby Zeromus?
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2015, 08:33:17 AM »
Huh, that's interesting. You're sure it's not just some Zeromus sprites that happen to fit together like that? I haven't really ever examined Z's image in depth, but I ask because 1) they appear tonbe part of his sprite sheet, and 2) from what I can tell, it's a 2x4 monster, and I don't think the game has any of those by default (right?).

Barring that, I can't really conceive of what their plans might have been for this. I don't think Zeromus would ever have a good reason to hide in the ground. With the special BG during that battle, you'd likely not even be able to see most of "Baby Zeromus."

Anyway, cool find!
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Re: Baby Zeromus?
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2015, 09:23:35 AM »
My guess is that it was supposed to be part of the Zeromus battle somehow, but was never used.
Interestingly, in the Wonderswan ROM it's not placed with Zeromus, but found among the standard enemies. I wonder if there was a plan to include this as extra content somewhere.
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Re: Baby Zeromus?
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2015, 01:34:20 PM »
Hmm, perhaps at one point Zeromus was going to have an ability to summon these little guys but someone decided that it would make the fight to difficult?

Epic find man. I could easily picture this monster being in some Hell-like area or as minions in a boss fight!
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Re: Baby Zeromus?
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2015, 01:51:45 PM »
Hey, I just thought of something - Baby Zeromus/BZ/Bahamut Zero
Sorry, that was stupid. I'm in a goofy mood.
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Re: Baby Zeromus?
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2015, 05:45:10 PM »
It's funny, that graphic's still in the GBA ROM - it's placed in among the summon graphics, after Asura's alternate sprites.
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Re: Baby Zeromus?
« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2015, 08:00:50 PM »
Quote from: Kea on October 23, 2015, 05:45:10 PM
It's funny, that graphic's still in the GBA ROM - it's placed in among the summon graphics, after Asura's alternate sprites.

Weird...
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Re: Baby Zeromus?
« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2015, 08:53:26 PM »
Quote from: Kea on October 23, 2015, 05:45:10 PM
It's funny, that graphic's still in the GBA ROM - it's placed in among the summon graphics, after Asura's alternate sprites.

OK, that motivated me to take another look. I'm sure they just copied over the Wonderswan part into the GBA ROM.
You are correct. That's where it is in both versions. Could have sworn it was among the other enemies... :blush:

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Re: Baby Zeromus?
« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2015, 09:38:32 PM »
Wow, I didn't realize it when you guys were just talking about it (though I should have, given who brought it up) but that means not only did they include the sprites, but they converted them to 4bpp.
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Re: Baby Zeromus?
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2015, 07:48:14 AM »
Quote from: chillyfeez on October 23, 2015, 09:38:32 PM
Wow, I didn't realize it when you guys were just talking about it (though I should have, given who brought it up) but that means not only did they include the sprites, but they converted them to 4bpp.

I'm a bit confused, tbh. Could you clarify what it was that surprised you exactly? :xzone:
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