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FF4ET Enemy Item Drops...
« on: December 17, 2007, 03:56:55 PM »
Even after all this time, there isn't a document that lists what the enemies drop in Easytype. The drop list is a hybrid of FF2/4 as far as I can tell, but some drops are much more ridiculous.. such as easy to harvest Golden Apples by Kuars and obscene numbers of Grimore drops.

I think it is worth extracting this list.. to smack people over the head as to why FF4ET is certainly different than FF2 US.
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Re: FF4ET Enemy Item Drops...
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2007, 04:46:56 PM »
Quote from: Deathlike2 on December 17, 2007, 03:56:55 PM
I think it is worth extracting this list.. to smack people over the head as to why FF4ET is certainly different than FF2 US.

Offtopic: What really bugs me is when people say that FF2us was FF4ET with some stuff changed.  Its just not.  Just like FFMQ was here first before the Jpn release. 
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Re: FF4ET Enemy Item Drops...
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2007, 05:07:16 PM »
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Re: FF4ET Enemy Item Drops...
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2007, 05:15:24 PM »
Quote from: JCE3000GT on December 17, 2007, 04:46:56 PM
Quote from: Deathlike2 on December 17, 2007, 03:56:55 PM
I think it is worth extracting this list.. to smack people over the head as to why FF4ET is certainly different than FF2 US.

Offtopic: What really bugs me is when people say that FF2us was FF4ET with some stuff changed.  Its just not.  Just like FFMQ was here first before the Jpn release. 

Well, it's like 10% (maybe 20%) of the game that's changed. Obviously you play the game the same for the most part.. but the differences become apparently moreso late game... and certainly once you get the Coral Sword, you know it wasn't just "changes for the sake of changes".

Maybe it's just me, but the majority of the weapon/armor tweaks should have been used in FF4A (most of these tweaks are balanced)... because a number of them don't really shine at all.. just crappy for the most part.
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Re: FF4ET Enemy Item Drops...
« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2007, 05:51:08 PM »
Quote from: JCE3000GT on December 17, 2007, 05:07:16 PM
http://pages.videotron.com/zyrthofr/ff4hz/romhack/idt.html

Those lists are for FF4 and FF2, not FF4ET. I'm serious when I say that the item drops are different (mostly a semi-combined effort of both FF2+4 for most existing enemies).. really, I think you should take a real look.

For a start, take a look at the Blackcat enemy (FF2 name, Tower of Babel enemy via Eblan Cave) in FF4ET. It drops one of the Apples (I forget which). Also, take a look at the Clapper enemy (FF2 name, a summoned monster in the Land of Summoned Monsters)... it seems to strictly drop Cure3 potions (X-Potions or whatever you prefer to call them).
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Re: FF4ET Enemy Item Drops...
« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2007, 06:43:57 PM »
Well he says: "Items Dropped (Easytype Version)", so I assumed he meant FF4ET.
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Re: FF4ET Enemy Item Drops...
« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2007, 06:53:27 PM »
Quote from: JCE3000GT on December 17, 2007, 04:46:56 PM
Quote from: Deathlike2 on December 17, 2007, 03:56:55 PM
I think it is worth extracting this list.. to smack people over the head as to why FF4ET is certainly different than FF2 US.

Offtopic: What really bugs me is when people say that FF2us was FF4ET with some stuff changed.  Its just not.  Just like FFMQ was here first before the Jpn release. 

Would you care to clarify?

Quote from: JCE3000GT on December 17, 2007, 06:43:57 PM
Well he says: "Items Dropped (Easytype Version)", so I assumed he meant FF4ET.

You do realize that he fell into the same mistake to interchange FF4ET with FF2...
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Re: FF4ET Enemy Item Drops...
« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2007, 09:30:17 PM »
I'll get you a correct drop list later on.
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Re: FF4ET Enemy Item Drops...
« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2007, 09:47:38 PM »
Quote from: Deathlike2 on December 17, 2007, 06:53:27 PM
Quote from: JCE3000GT on December 17, 2007, 04:46:56 PM
Quote from: Deathlike2 on December 17, 2007, 03:56:55 PM
I think it is worth extracting this list.. to smack people over the head as to why FF4ET is certainly different than FF2 US.

Offtopic: What really bugs me is when people say that FF2us was FF4ET with some stuff changed.  Its just not.  Just like FFMQ was here first before the Jpn release. 

Would you care to clarify?

Quote from: JCE3000GT on December 17, 2007, 06:43:57 PM
Well he says: "Items Dropped (Easytype Version)", so I assumed he meant FF4ET.

You do realize that he fell into the same mistake to interchange FF4ET with FF2...

I've read at a couple of sites in the past that Final Fantasy Mystic Quest was released in America before it was released in Japan as Final Fantasy USA and Mystic Quest Legend in Europe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy_Mystic_Quest
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Re: FF4ET Enemy Item Drops...
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2007, 10:18:14 PM »
1. Potion, Potion, Potion, Potion
2. Potion, Potion, Potion, Hi-Potion
3. Remedy, Remedy, Remedy, Tent
4. Remedy, Remedy, Remedy, Remedy
5. Remedy, Remedy, Remedy, Remedy
6. Flame Arrows, Flame Arrows, Flame Arrows, Flame Arrows
7. Ice Arrows, Ice Arrows, Ice Arrows, Ice Arrows
8. Thunder Arrows, Thunder Arrows, Thunder Arrows, Thunder Arrows
9. Potion, Potion, Potion, Potion
10. Poisoned Arrows, Poisoned Arrows, Poisoned Arrows, Poisoned Arrows
11. Ether, Ether, Ether, Ether
12. Hi-Potion, Ether, Ether, Ether
13. Mythril Shield, Mythril Hammer, Hi-Potion, X-Potion
14. Potion, Grimoire, Grimoire, Grimoire
15. Remedy, Remedy, Remedy, Remedy
16. Hi-Potion, X-Potion, Elixir, Glass Mask
17. Potion, Hi-Potion, Hi-Potion, Hi-Potion
18. Potion, Grimoire, Grimoire, Grimoire
19. Plumed Hat, Grimoire, Grimoire, Grimoire
20. Cap, Grimoire, Grimoire, Grimoire
21. Potion, Potion,Potion, Cursed Ring
22. Tent, Cottage, Cottage, Cottage
23. Harp of Doubt, Ruby Ring, Temptation Arrows, Temptation Arrows
24. Flame Lance, Flame Sword, Flame Shield, Flame Armor
25. Tent, Tent, Tent, Tent
26. Cottage, Ogre Frightener, Poison Axe, Muffle Axe
27. Hi-Potion, Hi-Potion, Grimoire, Grimoire
28. Potion, Potion, Potion, Potion
29. Ether, Ether, Ether, Ether
30. Hi-Potion, X-Potion, Stone Arrows, Stone Arrows
31. Mythril Knife, Mythril Shield, Mythril Armor, Piggy's Stick
32. Remedy, Yoichi's Arrows, Yoichi's Arrows, Yoichi's Arrows
33. Hi-Potion, Twist Headband, Power Wrist, Giant's Gloves
34. Potion, Potion, Potion, Potion
35. Healing Staff, Magic Armlet, Muffle Staff, Grimoire
36. Potion, Potion, Grimoire, Grimoire
37. Hi-Potion, Hi-Potion, Hi-Potion, Silver Apple
38. X-Potion, X-Potion, X-Potion, Golden Apple
39. Magic Rod, Silver Armlet, Ether, Dry Ether
40. Ether, Ether, Ether, Witch's Rod
41. Dry Ether, Elixir, Fuma Shuriken, Pink Tail
42. Goddess' Arrows, Goddess' Arrows, Heroine's Dress, Goddess' Bow
43. Gaia Hammer, Giant's Gloves, Giant's Gloves, Silver Apple
44. Ether, Dry Ether, Elixir, Protect Ring
45. Hi-Potion, Shuriken, Dragon's Whisker, Wyvern Lance
46. Murasame, Murasame, Murasame, Murasame
47. Red Fang, Dragon Gloves, Wyvern Lance, Crystal Armlet
48. Power Wrist, Power Sash, Silver Apple, Sword of Anger
49. Remedy, Dry Ether, Golden Apple, Ribbon
50. Remedy, Remedy, Remedy, Silver Apple
51. Hi-Potion, Hi-Potion, Hi-Potion, Hi-Potion
52. Potion, Potion, Potion, Cursed Ring
53. Potion, Grimoire, Grimoire, Grimoire
54. Potion, Potion, Hi-Potion, Hi-Potion
55. Hi-Potion, Hi-Potion, Silver Apple, Cat Claw
56. Stone Arrows, Stone Arrows, Stone Arrows, Stone Sword
57. Potion, Tent, Hi-Potion, Goblin
58. Revival Medicine, Revival Medicine, Revival Medicine, Revival Medicine
59. Potion, Potion, Potion, Bomb
60. Hi-Potion, Hi-Potion, Hi-Potion, Mind Flayer
61. Dr. Lugae's Key, Dr. Lugae's Key, Dr. Lugae's Key, Dr. Lugae's Key
62. Potion, Potion, Potion, Potion
63. Revival Medicine, Revival Medicine, Revival Medicine, Revival Medicine
64. Elixir, Elixir, Elixir, Elixir
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Re: FF4ET Enemy Item Drops...
« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2007, 11:09:25 PM »
These map to the exact same monsters...?! (looking at a quick comparison).

I'll highlight what I can point out that's worthy in bold.

Quote from: Dragonsbrethren on December 17, 2007, 10:18:14 PM
1. Potion, Potion, Potion, Potion
2. Potion, Potion, Potion, Hi-Potion
3. Remedy, Remedy, Remedy, Tent
4. Remedy, Remedy, Remedy, Remedy
5. Remedy, Remedy, Remedy, Remedy
6. Flame Arrows, Flame Arrows, Flame Arrows, Flame Arrows
7. Ice Arrows, Ice Arrows, Ice Arrows, Ice Arrows
8. Thunder Arrows, Thunder Arrows, Thunder Arrows, Thunder Arrows
9. Potion, Potion, Potion, Potion
10. Poisoned Arrows, Poisoned Arrows, Poisoned Arrows, Poisoned Arrows
11. Ether, Ether, Ether, Ether
12. Hi-Potion, Ether, Ether, Ether
13. Mythril Shield, Mythril Hammer, Hi-Potion, X-Potion
14. Potion, Grimoire, Grimoire, Grimoire - Toad type monsters
15. Remedy, Remedy, Remedy, Remedy
16. Hi-Potion, X-Potion, Elixir, Glass Mask
17. Potion, Hi-Potion, Hi-Potion, Hi-Potion
18. Potion, Grimoire, Grimoire, Grimoire - Sandworm/Aquaworm
19. Plumed Hat, Grimoire, Grimoire, Grimoire - Raven/Roc
20. Cap, Grimoire, Grimoire, Grimoire - Crocodile/Aligator
21. Potion, Potion,Potion, Cursed Ring
22. Tent, Cottage, Cottage, Cottage
23. Harp of Doubt, Ruby Ring, Temptation Arrows, Temptation Arrows
24. Flame Lance, Flame Sword, Flame Shield, Flame Armor
25. Tent, Tent, Tent, Tent
26. Cottage, Ogre Frightener, Poison Axe, Muffle Axe
27. Hi-Potion, Hi-Potion, Grimoire, Grimoire - Annoying poison monsters that cast Bio instead
28. Potion, Potion, Potion, Potion
29. Ether, Ether, Ether, Ether
30. Hi-Potion, X-Potion, Stone Arrows, Stone Arrows
31. Mythril Knife, Mythril Shield, Mythril Armor, Piggy's Stick - Mythril Golem
32. Remedy, Yoichi's Arrows, Yoichi's Arrows, Yoichi's Arrows
33. Hi-Potion, Twist Headband, Power Wrist, Giant's Gloves
34. Potion, Potion, Potion, Potion
35. Healing Staff, Magic Armlet, Muffle Staff, Grimoire
36. Potion, Potion, Grimoire, Grimoire - Ging-Ryu
37. Hi-Potion, Hi-Potion, Hi-Potion, Silver Apple
38. X-Potion, X-Potion, X-Potion, Golden Apple - Mechanical Dragon and Clapper!
39. Magic Rod, Silver Armlet, Ether, Dry Ether
40. Ether, Ether, Ether, Witch's Rod
41. Dry Ether, Elixir, Fuma Shuriken, Pink Tail
42. Goddess' Arrows, Goddess' Arrows, Heroine's Dress, Goddess' Bow
43. Gaia Hammer, Giant's Gloves, Giant's Gloves, Silver Apple
44. Ether, Dry Ether, Elixir, Protect Ring
45. Hi-Potion, Shuriken, Dragon's Whisker, Wyvern Lance
46. Murasame, Murasame, Murasame, Murasame
47. Red Fang, Dragon Gloves, Wyvern Lance, Crystal Armlet
48. Power Wrist, Power Sash, Silver Apple, Sword of Anger - Behemoth
49. Remedy, Dry Ether, Golden Apple, Ribbon - Toadlady/Warlock
50. Remedy, Remedy, Remedy, Silver Apple
51. Hi-Potion, Hi-Potion, Hi-Potion, Hi-Potion
52. Potion, Potion, Potion, Cursed Ring
53. Potion, Grimoire, Grimoire, Grimoire - Alert type monsters
54. Potion, Potion, Hi-Potion, Hi-Potion
55. Hi-Potion, Hi-Potion, Silver Apple, Cat Claw - Panther and Blackcat!
56. Stone Arrows, Stone Arrows, Stone Arrows, Stone Sword
57. Potion, Tent, Hi-Potion, Goblin
58. Revival Medicine, Revival Medicine, Revival Medicine, Revival Medicine
59. Potion, Potion, Potion, Bomb
60. Hi-Potion, Hi-Potion, Hi-Potion, Mind Flayer
61. Dr. Lugae's Key, Dr. Lugae's Key, Dr. Lugae's Key, Dr. Lugae's Key
62. Potion, Potion, Potion, Potion
63. Revival Medicine, Revival Medicine, Revival Medicine, Revival Medicine
64. Elixir, Elixir, Elixir, Elixir
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