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FF4ET Pinkpuff "Relocation"
« on: December 18, 2007, 01:30:04 PM »
I believe the Alert item is actually disabled in FF4ET (yet not disabled in FF2)... feel free to confirm/refute this point...

The Pinkpuff aka Flan Princess seems to have relocated in the Lunar Subterrain. Its normal "breeding ground" is that little side cave on floor B5. However, I don't think that monster group exists there... instead.. I've actually encoutered it in a different location... In the area where you have three openings along a row.. one is a save point, the other is the Holy Spear area, and the other is the dual Ribbon area. I've found the Pinkpuff in the dual Ribbon area...

So, I'm wondering... are there any other locations of the Pinkpuff in FF2/4 other than the small area on floor F5? Can you confirm my finding of the Pinkpuff location in FF4ET? Are there any other locations of the Pinkpuff in FF4ET?
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Re: FF4ET Pinkpuff "Relocation"
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2007, 01:46:04 PM »
Quote from: Deathlike2 on December 18, 2007, 01:30:04 PM
are there any other locations of the Pinkpuff in FF2/4 other than the small area on floor F5?

In FF4 and FF2us that's the only location.
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Re: FF4ET Pinkpuff "Relocation"
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2007, 01:55:59 PM »
You're absolutely correct, JCE and I never found this data but Zyrthofar has it in the new version of his editor. The Flan Princesses are now in the Ribbon room instead of the "P" room. They're also slightly more common, they now occupy the second to rarest slot in addition to the rarest.

I can't confirm the Siren being disabled in Easy Type though, I've never even tried using one in it.

Edit: They can also be found in the rooms in the screenshots I've attached.

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Re: FF4ET Pinkpuff "Relocation"
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2007, 02:10:19 PM »
Quote from: Dragonsbrethren on December 18, 2007, 01:55:59 PM
I can't confirm the Siren being disabled in Easy Type though, I've never even tried using one in it.

Hack it into your item list and try to use it.  :tongue:

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Edit: They can also be found in the rooms in the screenshots I've attached.

You know, those rooms are where the White/Holy Robe and Minerva Robes are... which might actually make "some" sense in terms of enemy placement (pretty much the "Flan Princesses" guard the women's ultimate equipment)...
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Re: FF4ET Pinkpuff "Relocation"
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2007, 03:36:59 PM »
Hmmm.. after killing a number of Pinkpuffs now in FF4ET.. is it me or is the frequency of drops increase for just that battle?
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Re: FF4ET Pinkpuff "Relocation"
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2007, 03:44:59 PM »
Quote from: Deathlike2 on December 18, 2007, 03:36:59 PM
Hmmm.. after killing a number of Pinkpuffs now in FF4ET.. is it me or is the frequency of drops increase for just that battle?

731BD PinkPuff (FF2us) 60 10 27 5F 99 C0 25 68 7D 58 00 00 08 7F 20
731BD Flan Princess (FF4ET) 60 10 27 5F 99 C0 25 A8 7D 58 00 00 08 7F 20

The BOLD byte is the item drop + frequency.  Which means yes, the FF4ET PinkPuff/Flan Princess is in the highest item drop % bracket. 
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Re: FF4ET Pinkpuff "Relocation"
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2007, 03:55:54 PM »
How about I supposed to interpret said hex values.... that number over 256?
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Re: FF4ET Pinkpuff "Relocation"
« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2007, 04:33:43 PM »
Offset -  Monster name -  Lv - HP - Attack -  Defense -  Magic Defense - Special bit - Item drop - Attack sequence - Extra bit - Attack statuses - Status defenses/immunities - Weakness - Spell power - Monster type - Counter attack

731BD PinkPuff (FF2us) 60 10 27 5F 99 C0 25 68 7D 58 00 00 08 7F 20
731BD Flan Princess (FF4ET) 60 10 27 5F 99 C0 25 A8 7D 58 00 00 08 7F 20

Not all monsters have all of these fields, but up until the Attack sequence they are all the same data.
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Re: FF4ET Pinkpuff "Relocation"
« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2007, 04:43:59 PM »
Quote from: JCE3000GT on December 18, 2007, 04:33:43 PM
Offset -  Monster name -  Lv - HP - Attack -  Defense -  Magic Defense - Special bit - Item drop - Attack sequence - Extra bit - Attack statuses - Status defenses/immunities - Weakness - Spell power - Monster type - Counter attack

731BD PinkPuff (FF2us) 60 10 27 5F 99 C0 25 68 7D 58 00 00 08 7F 20
731BD Flan Princess (FF4ET) 60 10 27 5F 99 C0 25 A8 7D 58 00 00 08 7F 20

Not all monsters have all of these fields, but up until the Attack sequence they are all the same data.

That's not what I meant.... I mean, how am I supposed to interpret the drop rate? Is it the hex value (converted into decimal)/256?

Sweet drops!

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Re: FF4ET Pinkpuff "Relocation"
« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2007, 04:46:27 PM »
Well there are three groups of the drop rate.  Each 64 bytes $40 adds a 25% extra chance to drop the items.  Unless all four possible items are the same in which case the monster will always drop said item regardless.  *see "Tower" Key

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Now granted I'm not 100% sure on the percentages--this was based on my old observations.

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Oh and there is a typo in that HTML file. 

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Example: Index 37 x 40 = 77.  Each 40 you add is about 25% more chance.

Should read:
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Example: Index 37 + 40 = 77.  Each 40 you add is about 25% more chance.

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Re: FF4ET Pinkpuff "Relocation"
« Reply #10 on: December 19, 2007, 05:21:45 AM »
Wheeeee I've been relocated!
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