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Title: ff2/4 "reference book" website - now with an address!- site's "finished"!
Post by: bond697 on June 11, 2008, 09:07:18 PM
edit 7/7/08: well, all the data i have so far is up on the site. i'll keep adding things as they're presented here, and i'll keep editing the site itself to make it "prettier", etc.   :happy:

bond697.110mb.com




i've gone thr0ugh and grabbed everything i could find in terms of data and general/random facts from all 9 pages worth of threads here.  right now, i have 52 documents: some very specific, some very general, including the towel of bab-il docs and  deathlike's magic guide-if that's a problem, let me know-. i also have  some stuff phoenix has posted, paladin's spreadsheet, entroper's spreadsheet, a pdf, and 2 html pages worth of info, etc etc.  one of those pages is jce's large html doc.  if there's a problem with using it, please let me know.

i want to get all the data up first, then i'm gonna try and give credit to everyone as best i can- which should be do-able, just time consuming. 

objections? ideas?
Title: Re: ff2/4 "reference book" website
Post by: Dragonsbrethren on June 11, 2008, 09:16:01 PM
My updated weapon animations document:

Code: [Select]
Weapon Animations - Compiled by Dragonsbrethren

Icon Name Offset Data

None (Unarmed) 0x7A010 25150D00
Claw FireClaw 0x7A014 18160E03
Claw IceClaw 0x7A018 19160E03
Claw Thunder 0x7A01C 1A160E03
Claw Charm 0x7A020 1B160E03
Claw Poison 0x7A024 1C160E03
Claw CatClaw 0x7A028 1D160E03
Rod Rod 0x7A02C 1E000A02
Rod IceRod 0x7A030 19000A02
Rod FlameRod 0x7A034 18000A02
Rod Thunder 0x7A038 1A000A02
Rod Change 0x7A03C 1B000A02
Rod Charm 0x7A040 1D000A02
Rod Stardust 0x7A044 1F000A02
Rod Lilith 0x7A048 1C000A02
Staff Staff 0x7A04C 1E010A02
Staff Cure 0x7A050 20010A02
Staff Silver 0x7A054 21010A02
Staff Power 0x7A058 1D010A02
Staff Lunar 0x7A05C 1A010A02
Staff Life 0x7A060 1C010A02
Staff Silence 0x7A064 1B010A02
Dark Sword Shadow 0x7A068 22060301
Dark Sword Darkness 0x7A06C 1A060301
Dark Sword Black 0x7A070 1C060301
Holy Sword Legend 0x7A074 20040401
Holy Sword Light 0x7A078 20040401
Holy Sword Excalbur 0x7A07C 20040401
Sword Flame 0x7A080 18040601
Sword IceBrand 0x7A084 19040501
Sword Defense 0x7A088 1F040001
Sword Drain 0x7A08C 1C040001
Sword Ancient 0x7A090 1E040001
Sword Slumber 0x7A094 1F040001
Sword Medusa 0x7A098 23040001
Spear Spear 0x7A09C 24020001
Spear Wind 0x7A0A0 23040001
Spear Flame 0x7A0A4 18020601
Spear Blizzard 0x7A0A8 19020501
Spear Dragoon 0x7A0AC 1A020701
Spear White 0x7A0B0 2C020401
Spear Drain 0x7A0B4 1C020001
Spear Gungnir 0x7A0B8 22020001
Katana Short 0x7A0BC 22060301
Katana Middle 0x7A0C0 22060301
Katana Long 0x7A0C4 23060301
Katana Ninja 0x7A0C8 1A060301
Katana Murasame 0x7A0CC 19060301
Katana Masamune 0x7A0D0 24060201
Knife Assassin 0x7A0D4 1E050001
Knife Mute 0x7A0D8 1B050001
Whip Whip 0x7A0DC 1E13020A
Whip Chain 0x7A0E0 2413020A
Whip Blitz 0x7A0E4 1A13020A
Whip Flame 0x7A0E8 1813020A
Whip Dragon 0x7A0EC 1B13020A
Axe HandAxe 0x7A0F0 1E070001
Axe Dwarf 0x7A0F4 1E070007
Axe Ogre 0x7A0F8 19070001
Knife Silver 0x7A0FC 21030001
Knife Dancing 0x7A100 1D030001
Sword Silver 0x7A104 21040001
Knife Spoon 0x7A108 21030001
Holy Sword Crystal 0x7A10C 1A040401
Shuriken Shuriken 0x7A110 240B1206
Shuriken Ninja 0x7A114 180B1206
Boomerang Boomrang 0x7A118 1E0D1007
Boomerang FullMoon 0x7A11C 200F1108
Harp Dreamer 0x7A120 1D0A1309
Harp Lamia 0x7A124 1F0A1309
None Dummy 0x7A128 1A040401
Axe Poison 0x7A12C 23070001
Axe RuneAxe 0x7A130 1B070001
Wrench Silver 0x7A134 21090E0B
Wrench Earth 0x7A138 1A090E0B
Wrench Wooden 0x7A13C 18090E0B
Sword Avenger 0x7A140 1D040001
Bow ShortBow 0x7A144 1E170804
Bow CrossBow 0x7A148 22170804
Bow GreatBow 0x7A14C 24170804
Bow Archer 0x7A150 23170804
Bow ElvenBow 0x7A154 1B170804
Bow Samurai 0x7A158 1C170804
Bow Artemis 0x7A15C 1D170804
Arrow Iron 0x7A160 24170805
Arrow White 0x7A164 20170805
Arrow Fire 0x7A168 18170805
Arrow Ice 0x7A16C 19170805
Arrow Lit 0x7A170 1A170805
Arrow Darkness 0x7A174 22170805
Arrow Poison 0x7A178 23170805
Arrow Mute 0x7A17C 1F170805
Arrow Charm 0x7A180 1F170805
Arrow Samurai 0x7A184 1C170805
Arrow Medusa 0x7A188 1B170805
Arrow Artemis 0x7A18C 1D170805
0x7A190 24170D05
0x7A194 24170D04
0x7A198 21171505
0x7A19C 21171504

Byte 1: Palette - Note that these are just the palettes that are used by existing weapons. Any palette that can be used by magic can also be used on weapons.

18: Red Orange/Yellow
19: Blue/Light Blue
1A: Gold/Blue
1B: Green/Yellow
1C: Red/Yellow
1D: Orange/Yellow
1E: Brown/Gray
1F: Pink/Gold
20: Light Blue/Yellow
21: Gray/Green
22: Dark Blue/Gold
23: Purple/Green
24: Gray/Brown
25: Red/Flesh
2C: Blue/White

Byte 2: Weapon Graphic - Other graphics are possible but they tend to be parts of the animations used by other weapons.

00: Rod
01: Staff
02: Spear
03: Knife
04: Sword
05: Dagger
06: Katana
07: Axe
09: Hammer
0A: Harp
0B: Shuriken
0D: Boomerang
0F: Chakram
13: Whip
15: Fist
16: Claw
17: Bow & Arrows

Byte 3: Hit Animation - This determines the sound effect used as well. Additional weapon graphics can be used as hit animations, try values past $15.

00: Slash
02: Whip Lash
03: Katana Slash
04: Holy Slash
05: Ice Slash
06: Flame Slash
07: Thunder Slash
08: Arrows
0A: Sparkles
0D: Punch
0E: Big Punch
10: Unknown (Used on Boomrang)
11: Unknown (Used on FullMoon)
12: Shurikens
13: Notes
15: Swords

Byte 4: Special - This can override sound effect set by byte 3. For a functional bow and arrow animation a weapon with $04 must be equipped in one hand and one with $05 in the other

00: Nothing? (Used on Unarmed)
01: Swing + Diagonal Slash (Used on Swords/Spears/Katanas/Axes)
02: Random Sparkles (Used on Rods/Staves)
03: Random Large Hits (Used on Claws)
04: Is Bow (Used in Bow & Arrow Combination)
05: Is Arrow (Used in Bow & Arrow Combination)
06: Throw + Random Hits (Used on Shurikens)
07: Boomerang 1 (Used on Boomrang, Dwarf Axe)
08: Boomerang 2 (Used on FullMoon)
09: Wave + Random Hits (Used on Harps)
0A: Whip Swing + Diagonal Slash (Used on Whips)
0B: Swing + Random Hits (Used on Hammers)
Feel free to add this.
Title: Re: ff2/4 "reference book" website
Post by: bond697 on June 11, 2008, 09:26:35 PM
excellent, thank you.  i had your old one.
Title: Re: ff2/4 "reference book" website
Post by: bond697 on June 15, 2008, 10:59:36 PM
hey, so i found a translation of the ffiv Settei Shiryou Shuu, an ultimania-like book about ffiv.  the website is here, in case anyone hasn't seen it:

http://home.att.net/~RCgamusic/ff4comp.htm
Title: Re: ff2/4 "reference book" website
Post by: JCE3000GT on June 15, 2008, 11:08:21 PM
Quote from: bond697 on June 15, 2008, 10:59:36 PM
hey, so i found a translation of the ffiv Settei Shiryou Shuu, an ultimania-like book about ffiv.  the website is here, in case anyone hasn't seen it:

http://home.att.net/~RCgamusic/ff4comp.htm

Interesting reading.   :happy:
Title: Re: ff2/4 "reference book" website
Post by: Dragonsbrethren on June 16, 2008, 02:56:28 AM
Quote from: JCE3000GT on June 15, 2008, 11:08:21 PM
Quote from: bond697 on June 15, 2008, 10:59:36 PM
hey, so i found a translation of the ffiv Settei Shiryou Shuu, an ultimania-like book about ffiv.  the website is here, in case anyone hasn't seen it:

http://home.att.net/~RCgamusic/ff4comp.htm

Interesting reading.   :happy:

Very. So this is the book that shot of Kain with white magic came from, I had forgotten the name. I used to have a scan of that screenshot, no idea where I got it from.
Title: Re: ff2/4 "reference book" website - and now some other stuff, too.
Post by: bond697 on June 19, 2008, 07:01:57 PM
i'm still fooling around with colors, but the front page is done(not quite, but close), and i have 1 single document up:

http://bond697.110mb.com/

thoughts? i'm still working on exactly how i want to orgainze the info.

btw, as for the pictures, it's ffiv beginning(orig. snes cover) to end(ffiv cover?).
Title: Re: ff2/4 "reference book" website - now with an address!
Post by: Dragonsbrethren on June 20, 2008, 09:03:01 PM
I'm not really liking the background (You got that from FFOrigins.com, right?), it doesn't fit a FF4 site. I like the fact that it's simple though, looks really easy to update, I'd have done a two column layout rather than frames though because that makes it even easier to update.
Title: Re: ff2/4 "reference book" website - now with an address!
Post by: bond697 on June 21, 2008, 07:22:25 PM
Quote from: Dragonsbrethren on June 20, 2008, 09:03:01 PM
I'm not really liking the background (You got that from FFOrigins.com, right?), it doesn't fit a FF4 site. I like the fact that it's simple though, looks really easy to update, I'd have done a two column layout rather than frames though because that makes it even easier to update.

yeah, agreed on the b/g. i kept telling myself, "it's not too bad, maybe someone likes it!" but, really, no. as for it's origins, i got it maybe 3, 4 yeards ago? possibly 5? i don't know where it came from.

as for the simplicity, like i said, it's gonna be super-simple.  i like the frames, but that's really just a preference thing.  you're right about the columns being a bit easier to update.  i like to keep the book's "index" and the "pages" divided. your way would work just as well.
Title: Re: ff2/4 "reference book" website - now with an address!
Post by: Dragonsbrethren on June 21, 2008, 09:41:12 PM
If you'd like I can try to make you a more FF4-related background.
Title: Re: ff2/4 "reference book" website - now with an address!
Post by: bond697 on June 21, 2008, 10:11:56 PM
Quote from: Dragonsbrethren on June 21, 2008, 09:41:12 PM
If you'd like I can try to make you a more FF4-related background.

if you make it, i'd be happy to use it. i was just gonna change it to black, but something more would be nice. :happy:
Title: Re: ff2/4 "reference book" website - now with an address!
Post by: Dragonsbrethren on June 21, 2008, 10:14:51 PM
Okay, give me a few days, not sure when I'll get around to working on it.
Title: Re: ff2/4 "reference book" website - now with an address!
Post by: bond697 on June 21, 2008, 10:21:25 PM
no rush here, i've got all the time in the world. :happy:
Title: Re: ff2/4 "reference book" website - now with an address!
Post by: bond697 on June 23, 2008, 09:05:55 PM
ok, so i'm starting to post some real data(not just offsets, etc, etc, but how different things work-analyses that deathlike has posted). i just wanted to say, death, if you look at the site and don't like what i've done with your info( i've left it pretty much exactly as you wrote it with a bit of html formatting and some minor editing for content), please let me know if you want it changed or taken down, and i gladly will.  i've also credited you("-thanks to deathlike2").

thanks for the input.
Title: Re: ff2/4 "reference book" website - now with an address!
Post by: Dragonsbrethren on June 28, 2008, 07:16:33 AM
Quote from: bond697 on June 21, 2008, 10:11:56 PM
Quote from: Dragonsbrethren on June 21, 2008, 09:41:12 PM
If you'd like I can try to make you a more FF4-related background.

if you make it, i'd be happy to use it. i was just gonna change it to black, but something more would be nice. :happy:

What do you think of this?

http://dragonsbrethren.slickproductions.org/example/index.html (http://dragonsbrethren.slickproductions.org/example/index.html)

It's pretty much your site as-is, but with the clouds from the GBA version's final battle. I wanted to do something more than this; I was looking for some javascript that would continuously move the top and bottom images like the actual battle background but I couldn't find anything that worked good enough. The biggest problem with everything I found was that it only worked with a fixed size, this site should appear properly on any resolution was long as the browser window is large enough for your images.

Anyway, I'll zip everything up so you don't have to get everything from the page source if you want it. I didn't test it with your frame so you might need to do a little work to get the main text centered decently.
Title: Re: ff2/4 "reference book" website - now with an address!
Post by: bond697 on June 28, 2008, 07:01:31 PM
yeah, definitely email that on over to me.  if i can't get it to work out with the frame, i'll just get rid of them.

and, again, thanks a lot. looks great. :happy:
Title: Re: ff2/4 "reference book" website - now with an address!
Post by: Dragonsbrethren on June 28, 2008, 07:16:53 PM
Sent the files.
Title: Re: ff2/4 "reference book" website - now with an address!
Post by: bond697 on June 28, 2008, 07:53:09 PM
was just looking through the archive, and i noticed the favicon. somehow, i missed it when i checked out the sample page for the first time.  very cool, thanks.
Title: Re: ff2/4 "reference book" website - now with an address!
Post by: Deathlike2 on June 29, 2008, 11:28:53 PM
When I get the time, I'll check this out...
Title: Re: ff2/4 "reference book" website - now with an address!
Post by: bond697 on June 30, 2008, 12:04:23 AM
if you're gonna check it out, wait until after tomorrow, cause i have a lot of stuff i want to add tomorrow. :)
Title: Re: ff2/4 "reference book" website - now with an address!
Post by: bond697 on June 30, 2008, 02:49:26 PM
just added the new background.  it looks pretty damned good. thanks a ton, man. :happy:
Title: Re: ff2/4 "reference book" website - now with an address!- site's "finished"!
Post by: Deathlike2 on July 31, 2008, 10:05:15 PM
This is eerily missing a credits section.
Title: Re: ff2/4 "reference book" website - now with an address!- site's "finished"!
Post by: bond697 on July 31, 2008, 10:11:04 PM
Quote from: Deathlike2 on July 31, 2008, 10:05:15 PM
This is eerily missing a credits section.
sorry, i'm going back and looking, and after i "finished" the site, i went back and updated my files. i got most of the way through and got distracted by something else, and never uploaded the credited ones. 

i'm thinking about maybe just making a "credits" section, as you said, and associating names with their respective documents. 

sorry, not trying to rip anyone off.
Title: Re: ff2/4 "reference book" website - now with an address!- site's "finished"!
Post by: bond697 on July 31, 2008, 10:39:41 PM
if it'll put you at ease knowing, i'm at my desk, mouse and keyboard off to one side near my monitor; in front of me, i have my laptop, with the game and the document up and running, along with both of my thumb drives with my document backups. i'll finish that first, and then add a full credits section to the rb.  making a full page will be easier.

wasn't trying to rip anyone off, just being kinda lazy. i'll fix everything now.
Title: Re: ff2/4 "reference book" website - now with an address!- site's "finished"!
Post by: Deathlike2 on July 31, 2008, 10:44:54 PM
I'm a little picky on credits.. that's just me.

On the other hand, a lot of the "docs" seems to be mediocre cut+paste job of the forum posts... not that it ultimately matters (eventually, I'll end up rewriting bits and pieces for clarity's sake in newer docs).. it's not as useful as it could be I guess.
Title: Re: ff2/4 "reference book" website - now with an address!- site's "finished"!
Post by: bond697 on July 31, 2008, 11:01:39 PM
yeah, i know about the copy/pasting.  it's been on my todo list to fix.  that and going through the board for any info from the last 3 weeks or so. 

gonna get the credits done tonight. :)