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FF6 Bugfixes Only Patch?
« on: April 09, 2016, 05:58:42 PM »
I've tinkered with FF6 hacking in the past when I was first getting started, and some time later learned that my patch didn't play well with other patches.  I have some ideas I'd like to get back to with FF6, but I'd like to start with a "base" patch that covers the bugfixes.  I looked at the FF6 Improvement Project, and while it's cool I'm looking for something that is strictly bugfixes only, no interpretation.  Does this exist yet for FF6?  If not, would people be interested in something like this?
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Re: FF6 Bugfixes Only Patch?
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2016, 06:59:04 PM »
I would. It's a worthwhile project in my opinion, if a bit ambitious. The biggest problem with it, though, is that there are some bugs for which multiple different bugfixes exist. For example, my Zombie/Rippler fix has three different algorithms to choose from for healing the entity that loses Zombie status. Also, I know that there are some patches that aren't available anymore, specifically Novalia Spirit's.
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Re: FF6 Bugfixes Only Patch?
« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2016, 08:13:06 PM »
Quote from: 13375K31C43R on April 09, 2016, 06:59:04 PM
Also, I know that there are some patches that aren't available anymore, specifically Novalia Spirit's.

Thankfully he (Novalia Spirit) has provided a Dropbox link to all his patches: https://www.dropbox.com/s/gwuai9i6jm7heok/ff6.7z?dl=0
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Re: FF6 Bugfixes Only Patch?
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2016, 05:52:04 PM »
I think it's a nice project. If I'd tackle something like this, Just an idea but I'd probably make aside of a patch an xkas compatible asm file in case someone wants to move / tweak (or remove?) any of the fix. An updated patch allocation document would also be greatly appreciated for future patch writers, bugfix or not. I've been avoiding since a while banks $C0 to $C3 when writing code I'll release because it is know that with all bugfixes applied a lot of the empty space in those banks is taken.
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Re: FF6 Bugfixes Only Patch?
« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2016, 02:27:51 PM »
My idea would be to write a program that takes a ROM and lets you choose what to change with a wizard. As in, the first page might be, "Choose which of the following bugs you want to fix" and there would be checkboxes for stuff like the Sketch Bug, Vanish/Doom, Evade etc. The second page might ask if you want to fix the Multi Runic bug (see Lenophis's "There can be only one!" patch) with algorithm A or B or C or whatever, then another page for Zombie/Rippler and another one for Zombie/Tapir, then one for dialogue fixes (e.g. Banon's line in the Returners' meeting, my "Gerad and Sabin" patch), etc. Something along those lines.
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Re: FF6 Bugfixes Only Patch?
« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2016, 03:19:07 PM »
Rich McGrew aka General Public had a mega-patch of mainly bugfixes:
http://slickproductions.org/forum/index.php?topic=1115.msg16669#msg16669

though it was last updated in November 2007.  you can see the website with archive.org:
https://web.archive.org/web/20111015003906/http://www.richmcgrew.com/downloads.html

and i can provide the .ZIP file if desired.
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Re: FF6 Bugfixes Only Patch?
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2016, 01:57:17 PM »
I created a bug-fix comp that contains all bug-fixes to date (to my knowledge). I once hosted it here, but decided to move it to its own topic. Visit it here:

http://slickproductions.org/forum/index.php?topic=2230.0
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Re: FF6 Bugfixes Only Patch?
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2016, 01:58:22 PM »
This is the script fix that goes with my bug-fix comp. I moved it to another topic with the other patch. Please visit it here:

http://slickproductions.org/forum/index.php?topic=2230.0
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Re: FF6 Bugfixes Only Patch?
« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2016, 04:54:00 PM »
To be clear, did you apply Novalia Spirit's "Shadow Chupon" patch or mine? Because mine was determined to have problems and even if I fixed them, it's only useful if you hack Chupon's name to be longer. My guess is you applied Novalia Spirit's.

Also, great work!
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Re: FF6 Bugfixes Only Patch?
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2016, 01:44:51 AM »
Big thanks. :3

It's Novalia's patch. I actually didn't see yours before I posted this. ;P Names of the patch makers beside the patches would be good. I'll edit those in.
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Re: FF6 Bugfixes Only Patch?
« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2016, 10:11:11 AM »
I updated my bug-fix comp to include Leet Sketcher's "Imp's Rage". I also added Leet Sketcher's fix for Imzogelmo's "Shadow Leaves One-Man Party" (it was changing more than it should have).
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Re: FF6 Bugfixes Only Patch?
« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2016, 08:55:18 AM »
Update: Now that the other mess is resolved (if you want to call discovering faulty IPS algorithms "resolved"), Imp's Rage is back in the patch.

I've also swapped "Shadow Leaves One-Man Party" out for "Shadow Gone". It's what I use in my patch. It's all just everything that's in my patch. :3

I was going to include a headered version of the patch, but file upload limits thwart me. Maybe I'll attach one to another post.

Curious: Should I use "Self Sneeze" instead of "Remote Control"? I don't know what the difference is.
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Re: FF6 Bugfixes Only Patch?
« Reply #12 on: April 21, 2016, 10:44:53 AM »
no, novalia's version is more complete.
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Re: FF6 Bugfixes Only Patch?
« Reply #13 on: April 21, 2016, 12:25:04 PM »
I disagree. I've got a ROM that's had both Remote Control and Self Sneeze applied to it, I removed Self Sneeze and tried using Palidor while Relm was Controlling an enemy. Now, not only does the enemy not appear to be losing its Control link, but the game seems to have frozen and Relm's ATB bar has dropped all the way to the bottom. I don't know why yet. As far as I can tell, Self Sneeze does not conflict with any other patches.
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Re: FF6 Bugfixes Only Patch?
« Reply #14 on: April 21, 2016, 12:48:46 PM »
Actually, upon further investigation, it's still happening with both patches applied. I tried removing just Self Sneeze and it's gotten to the point where people are now able to land, but if Relm's Control target gets killed, she somehow doesn't leave Control status and her ATB gauge drops to the bottom. So I guess that bug is somehow outside of this...but I still don't know why it's happening.
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