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Re: NFL season (2012-2013) week 14
« Reply #30 on: December 06, 2012, 10:59:24 AM »
if i skim your posts right, you've only picked the Vikings to lose once this entire season.  this homerism will not help with accuracy! :P

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Re: NFL season (2012-2013) week 14
« Reply #31 on: December 06, 2012, 07:16:11 PM »
Week 14 schedule:

Home stretch!

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Broncos @ Raiders (division, Thursday)

Broncos

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Rams @ Bills

Bills

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Cowboys @ Bengals

Bengals

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Chiefs @ Browns

Browns - Pretend this game didn't happen.

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Titans @ Colts (division)

Colts

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Bears @ Vikings (division)

Bears

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Eagles @ Buccaneers

Bucs

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Ravens @ Redskins

Redskins

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Falcons @ Panthers (division)

Falcons

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Jets @ Jaguars

Jets

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Chargers @ Steelers

Steelers

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Dolphins @ 49'ers

49ers

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Cardinals @ Seahawks (division)

Seahawks

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Saints @ Giants

Saints

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Lions @ Packers (division)

Packers

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Texans @ Patriots (Monday)

Pats - This game will be difficult... one way or the other.
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Re: NFL season (2012-2013) week 15
« Reply #32 on: December 12, 2012, 12:04:00 PM »
Week 15 schedule:

Bengals @ Eagles (Thursday)
Giants @ Falcons
Vikings @ Rams
Jaguars @ Dolphins
Packers @ Bears (division)
Redskins @ Browns
Broncos @ Ravens
Colts @ Texans (division)
Buccaneers @ Saints (division)
Lions @ Cardinals
Panthers @ Chargers
Seahawks @ Bills
Steelers @ Cowboys
Chiefs @ Raiders (division)
49'ers @ Patriots
Jets @ Titans (Monday)

My picks: Bengals, Falcons, Vikings, Dolphins, Packers, Redskins, Broncos, Texans, Saints, Lions, Chargers, Bills, Steelers, Raiders, Patriots, Titans.

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Re: NFL season (2012-2013) week 15
« Reply #33 on: December 13, 2012, 07:12:37 PM »
Week 15 schedule:

I will get around to putting the scores for the last weeks up.

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Bengals @ Eagles (Thursday)

Bengals

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Giants @ Falcons

Giants

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Vikings @ Rams

Rams

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Jaguars @ Dolphins

Dolphins

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Packers @ Bears (division)

Packers

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Redskins @ Browns

Redskins

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Broncos @ Ravens

Broncos

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Colts @ Texans (division)

Texans - The rematch on the final game of the season will be most important...

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Buccaneers @ Saints (division)

Saints

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Lions @ Cardinals

Lions

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Panthers @ Chargers

Chargers

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Seahawks @ Bills

Seahawks

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Steelers @ Cowboys

Steelers

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Chiefs @ Raiders (division)

Raiders

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49'ers @ Patriots

Pats


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Jets @ Titans (Monday)

Titans
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Re: NFL season (2012-2013) week 16
« Reply #34 on: December 20, 2012, 10:26:51 AM »
Week 16 schedule:
Falcons @ Lions (Thursday Saturday)
Saints @ Cowboys
Titans @ Packers
Colts @ Chiefs
Bills @ Dolphins (division)
Chargers @ Jets
Redskins @ Eagles (division)
Bengals @ Steelers (division)
Rams @ Buccaneers
Raiders @ Panthers
Patriots @ Jaguars
Vikings @ Texans
Browns @ Broncos
Bears @ Cardinals
Giants @ Ravens
49'ers @ Seahawks (division)

My picks: Falcons, Saints, Packers, Chiefs, Bills, Jets, Redskins, Steelers, Rams, Panthers, Patriots, Vikings, Broncos, Bears, Ravens, 49'ers.
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Re: NFL season (2012-2013) week 16
« Reply #35 on: December 22, 2012, 07:28:36 PM »
Week 16 schedule:

Final stretch time!

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Falcons @ Lions (Thursday Saturday)

Falcons - TNF ended early for competitive reasons.

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Saints @ Cowboys

Cowboys - game should be interesting...

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Titans @ Packers

Packers

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Colts @ Chiefs

Colts

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Bills @ Dolphins (division)

Dolphins

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Chargers @ Jets

Jets - Wouldn't a TIE make more sense? :P

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Redskins @ Eagles (division)

Redskins

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Bengals @ Steelers (division)

Steelers

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Rams @ Buccaneers

Bucs

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Raiders @ Panthers

Panthers

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Patriots @ Jaguars

Pats

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Vikings @ Texans

Texans

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Browns @ Broncos

Broncos

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Bears @ Cardinals

Bears - Although.. the Bears could embarrass themselves easily.

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Giants @ Ravens

Giants - This could get ugly.

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49'ers @ Seahawks (division)

Seahawks - Should be interesting...
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Re: NFL season (2012-2013) week 17
« Reply #36 on: December 28, 2012, 12:16:08 PM »
Week 17 schedule (all games are division games):
Buccaneers @ Falcons
Jets @ Bills
Ravens @ Bengals
Bears @ Lions
Jaguars @ Titans
Texans @ Colts
Panthers @ Saints
Eagles @ Giants
Browns @ Steelers
Raiders @ Chargers
Cardinals @ 49'ers
Rams @ Seahawks
Packers @ Vikings
Dolphins @ Patriots
Chiefs @ Broncos
Cowboys @ Redskins

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Re: NFL season (2012-2013) week 17
« Reply #37 on: December 30, 2012, 11:10:20 AM »
Week 17 schedule (all games are division games):

They intentionally scheme it that way... in addition to the timing.

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Buccaneers @ Falcons

Bucs

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Jets @ Bills

Bills

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Ravens @ Bengals

Bengals

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Bears @ Lions

Bears

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Jaguars @ Titans

Titans - Go figure.

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Texans @ Colts

Colts

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Panthers @ Saints

Saints

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Eagles @ Giants

Giants

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Browns @ Steelers

Steelers

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Raiders @ Chargers

Chargers

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Cardinals @ 49'ers

49ers

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Rams @ Seahawks

Seahawks

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Packers @ Vikings

Packers - Sorry Leno... although AP might get the record...

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Dolphins @ Patriots

Pats

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Chiefs @ Broncos

Broncos

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Cowboys @ Redskins

Redskins - There's something about Cowboys recent history that makes one /facepalm.
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Re: NFL season (2012-2013) week 18 (playoffs?!)
« Reply #38 on: December 30, 2012, 10:46:56 PM »
Week 18 schedule:

Saturday:
(6) Bengals @ (3) Texans: 4:30 PM eastern (NBC)
(6) Vikings @ (3) Packers: 8 PM eastern

Sunday:
(5) Colts @ (4) Ravens: 1 PM eastern (CBS)
(5) Seahawks @ (4) Redskins: 4:30 PM eastern (FOX)
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Re: NFL season (2012-2013) week 18 (playoffs?!)
« Reply #39 on: December 31, 2012, 11:50:42 AM »
oh man.. Lovie Smith got canned today.  it's somewhat, but not entirely, surprising, and i can't say i agree with it.

from a Yahoo article: "Smith, who posted an 81-63 regular season mark with the team since 2004, and a 6-3 record in the postseason, had just three losing records in his tenure with the organization -- 5-11 in his first season, and two 7-9 seasons."

that's a damned solid record over 9 years.  never going below 7 and 9, except in his 1st season, where anybody should have a lot of leeway.

some will bluster that, "Winners win championships!" or whatever.  but that's glib, because there's so much outside of a head coach's control (e.g. injuries, draft picks, etc).  winning without going all the way can be heartbreaking, but to have so many bouts with this frustration requires the team be successful to begin with.  truly bad teams avoid heartbreak by never inducing any hope or suspense. :P

the offense needed an overhaul anyway, so i'm not sure how much this move will hurt that unit.  but what of the Bears' stand-out defense?  defensive-minded Smith is gone.  coordinator Marinelli is probably gone as well.  sure, you have veteran players who spent a lot of time in this system, and won't forget their teachings right away ...  but will they even want to stick around?  there are a number of guys in their 30s, who might just call it an early retirement.  or maybe they'll follow Smith and/or Marinelli if they're hired elsewhere.

call it lack of imagination, but i'm having a hard time picturing who will do better than Lovie.  he put together the team's best winning percentage (56%) since Ditka (63%).

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Re: NFL season (2012-2013) week 18 (playoffs?!)
« Reply #40 on: January 01, 2013, 09:19:22 AM »
Considering that bar you seem to have set seems relatively low, I think there are still more issues at work.

1) QB - I don't think Cutler is the guy... he's an upgrade to whatever disaster you have had at QB, but he's not exactly the brightest bulb there, despite him being tough taking all those sacks. I wouldn't call him Romo (that would be too mean), but as an outsider looking in, he's more Brett Favre than he is a good QB at times..

2) O-line - Perennially known as the worst o-line in football (at least one of, next to say the occasional Packers blip, Cowboys, Steelers, Eagles...), Forte's ability to be able to catch the ball in addition to running the ball is a plus.... so it's masking real deficiencies there... then again, Cutler takes a lot of sacks because of those hits.

3) Urlacher - Some may think he's overrated... but I'm thinking he's not the same guy that he once was... at this rate you'll need to find someone to replace him long term, as injury histories get worse, not better.

Lovie Smith is not the problem, nor he is the longterm solution. I still didn't understand giving Grossman the reins when Orton was the guy that was most responsible for the Bears most successful season... in addition to backing off to Peyton (in the Super Bowl) after that deep ball that was a fault of the DB, not the coverage itself. Ultimately, he's not good enough to win it all yet, and also the not kind of detriment that a Norv Turner is to a team (Norv is an o-coord at best).
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Re: NFL season (2012-2013) week 18 (playoffs?!)
« Reply #41 on: January 01, 2013, 11:35:21 AM »
hey, the bar's not that low.  Smith had the third best Bears winning percentage in the last half century.

1) yeah, he doesn't seem to be able to dissect a defense like a Manning or a Brady does.  then again, anyone will look dumb without ample time.  i know you don't like Favre, and he made some poor decisions (both on the field and off), but speaking of him as opposite of a "good QB" is a bit silly, since he was a great one.

2) how much could the offensive line be shored up, if they were to dump the salaries of a couple big-name players (e.g. Cutler and Marshall), and replace them with simply average players?

3) still, i'd favor ~2 more years of Urlacher over 0 years, and the possibility of the latter just went up.  maybe he heals slower now, but he has a whole offseason ahead of him to rehab.

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in addition to backing off to Peyton (in the Super Bowl) after that deep ball that was a fault of the DB

refresh my memory on this.

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anyway, if they bring in an o-coordinator type as head coach, i hope he's smart and humble enough to focus revamp efforts on the offense, and only do minor tweaking to the defense.

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Re: NFL season (2012-2013) week 18 (playoffs?!)
« Reply #42 on: January 01, 2013, 12:31:02 PM »
1) yeah, he doesn't seem to be able to dissect a defense like a Manning or a Brady does.  then again, anyone will look dumb without ample time.  i know you don't like Favre, and he made some poor decisions (both on the field and off), but speaking of him as opposite of a "good QB" is a bit silly, since he was a great one.

The best way I can classify him is a JAG (Just A Guy).

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2) how much could the offensive line be shored up, if they were to dump the salaries of a couple big-name players (e.g. Cutler and Marshall), and replace them with simply average players?

#1 method here is to draft. You probably will want to try a franchise LT (left tackle) and either a guard or center and get the others through FA (free agency), either UDFA (undrafted free agents) or paying one. It's not all about the money, but then again, you cannot be like the Cowboys where you get someone like Doug Free (RT) and become part of the most penalized o-line in football.

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3) still, i'd favor ~2 more years of Urlacher over 0 years, and the possibility of the latter just went up.  maybe he heals slower now, but he has a whole offseason ahead of him to rehab.

Offseasons off of injury don't make you better... unless you're AP (although, I would think he would project downward like all good RBs at some point).


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in addition to backing off to Peyton (in the Super Bowl) after that deep ball that was a fault of the DB

refresh my memory on this.

There was a deep ball thrown by Peyton to probably Reggie Wayne or Marvin Harrison, where it was probably a standard Cover 2 defense... and after that play, the Bears essentially went through a prevent-ish like defense.

http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=270204003

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Manning weathered a rugged first series but got the Colts even, well, almost. Hit by Tank Johnson as he released, Manning floated a puntlike pass down the middle to Reggie Wayne, which he caught because Harris inexplicably broke the wrong way. It was good (very good) for a 53-yard touchdown, but the Colts couldn't handle the snap-hold exchange and it stayed at 7-6.

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anyway, if they bring in an o-coordinator type as head coach, i hope he's smart and humble enough to focus revamp efforts on the offense, and only do minor tweaking to the defense.

People always say minor tweaking, but it is never that simple in football. Generally not all players are consistent year to year (see Giants) so minor tweaking is being generous. You will always have to revamp a bit year by year.
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Re: NFL season (2012-2013) week 18 (playoffs?!)
« Reply #43 on: January 04, 2013, 04:57:24 PM »
Week 18 schedule:

Saturday:
(6) Bengals @ (3) Texans: 4:30 PM eastern (NBC)
(6) Vikings @ (3) Packers: 8 PM eastern

Sunday:
(5) Colts @ (4) Ravens: 1 PM eastern (CBS)
(5) Seahawks @ (4) Redskins: 4:30 PM eastern (FOX)
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Re: NFL season (2012-2013) week 18 (playoffs?!)
« Reply #44 on: January 04, 2013, 07:13:37 PM »
in case i don't get around to doing my detailed posts like i've done in past years:

Texans, Packers, and Ravens.  (those might change if i study things more.)

i'm less decisive on the 4th matchup, so that can wait.