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Re: Upgrade time
« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2010, 07:02:38 PM »
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.319504

The combo deal I referenced earlier has an ASUS card... and that has had some reasonably good reviews... so that's probably the best choice I guess.

I wonder why IST not responded to this thread.
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Re: Upgrade time
« Reply #16 on: January 29, 2010, 07:26:57 PM »
Oh wow, I just noticed the mail-in rebates on that one. Yeah, I think I'll go with that, provided nothing better pops up.
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Re: Upgrade time
« Reply #17 on: January 29, 2010, 08:55:24 PM »
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.319262

Here's a more expensive combo, but also a lot more powerful... it may be worth a look. Unfortunately, there isn't that many reviews on the ASUS 9800GT to make a definitive answer.
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Re: Upgrade time
« Reply #18 on: January 29, 2010, 09:33:15 PM »
I'll need to think about that one, it goes over my limit but it's still under it with the rebates. I guess what I should ask now is, is that card overkill for what I want to do with it? The most graphics-intensive thing I do on here regularly is play a 12-year old game with a somewhat demanding graphics plugin, which does reasonably well with my current setup.
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Re: Upgrade time
« Reply #19 on: January 30, 2010, 12:18:54 AM »
I would look at it this way...

For what you are currently doing... playing old games, it's certainly overkill. However, the faster hardware will at least let you play more recent stuff with some reasonable performance, if that ever comes up.... and it is a better transitional option onto your mobo (with or without onboard graphics).

It's something to consider with your investment.

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I would personally go for the 9800GT, because I tend to go for faster things, but this hardware is a generation old, but was closer to the top of the line for its time, whereas the GT220 is really a lower-mid rage card of the current gen... (the 9800GT is closer to a slower version of the GTS240, which is strictly an OEM card). I'm all about getting as much reasonable bang for the buck...

Also, if power and/or heat is a consideration, those can be factors.
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Re: Upgrade time
« Reply #20 on: January 30, 2010, 05:46:12 PM »
Quote from: Deathlike2 on January 29, 2010, 07:02:38 PM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.319504

The combo deal I referenced earlier has an ASUS card... and that has had some reasonably good reviews... so that's probably the best choice I guess.

I wonder why IST not responded to this thread.

Because he hadn't found it yet.

Honestly, don't buy more power than you need. a GT220 or a 9500GT should be fine for you. I suggest the GT220 to give yourself some leeway, but if you don't have the cash then the 9500GT should be fine.

As for the PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151085

Good, cheap, reliable. I have one in my sister's machine. Despite the low price, it's not crap.

Edit: If you're afraid about the quality of that PSU, here's a better one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151073
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Re: Upgrade time
« Reply #21 on: January 30, 2010, 08:07:58 PM »
I avoid the PSU talk other than having the 80PLUS recommendation... so I'd defer on that.

I don't like the 9500GT simply because on paper (I could be totally off), but it's technically inferior to the GT220 (power, relative performance, and heat generation). This is all accomplished on a potentially lower or equal price point.

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I've exclusively looked through both the GT220 and it looks like I missed a few options...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127455 - cheapest of all the GT220s, made by MSI and 1GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127456 - not sure why the 512MB MSI one is more expensive..

I still like the Gigabyte one though (the one with DDR3 mem)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125295

Some 9500GTs:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121336 - ASUS 512MB version
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121339 - ASUS 1GB version
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814162019 - cheapest 9500GT as far as I can tell
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Re: Upgrade time
« Reply #22 on: January 31, 2010, 05:17:03 AM »
i'm comparing some of these GeForce 9500s in the "EVGA" brand..  do you care if your card is "nVidia SLI ready" (whatever that means)?  on buy.com, that difference is worth $13 (yet on EVGA's website, there's no price difference).
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Re: Upgrade time
« Reply #23 on: January 31, 2010, 01:12:53 PM »
When are you considering low-end (or older mid-end solutions), SLI is definitely not important.
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Re: Upgrade time
« Reply #24 on: January 31, 2010, 04:33:04 PM »
Quote from: Deathlike2 on January 31, 2010, 01:12:53 PM
When are you considering low-end (or older mid-end solutions), SLI is definitely not important.

Or period. SLI has so many friggin' issues it's not funny.
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Re: Upgrade time
« Reply #25 on: January 31, 2010, 09:06:58 PM »
Hm, there are a few good 9600GT options...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814141073 - Biostar, cheapest one of the bunch (no HDMI though)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814187060 - Sparkle 512MB version
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133311 - PNY 1GB version
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814162030 - Galaxy 512MB version
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814162033 - Galaxy 1GB version

Note: I looked at this list because I remember rereading the Anandtech guide on the GT220s, and it was some price comparison of sorts... plus the 9600GT is slower than the 9800GT...
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Re: Upgrade time
« Reply #26 on: February 01, 2010, 11:28:22 AM »
I'm still considering the 9800GT w/ power supply combo. Mostly just wanted to let everyone know I am reading the posts and checking things out, even if I don't have much to say about them.
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Re: Upgrade time
« Reply #27 on: February 01, 2010, 07:00:37 PM »
That combo deal is gone.... unless there's something wrong with Newegg.
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Re: Upgrade time
« Reply #28 on: February 01, 2010, 07:57:34 PM »
 :bah:

I cleared my cache this afternoon. It was still in my cart the last time I checked, which I believe was last night. Probably wouldn't have worked if I bought it after the deal disappeared anyway.
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Re: Upgrade time
« Reply #29 on: February 02, 2010, 01:57:25 PM »
Okay, I went through the forums for everything I play that relies on OpenGL, and the only one that seems to have major issues with ATI cards is GZDoom. So yeah, throw up some more links to ATI if you want, I don't really care either way as long as it works, and the ones I've looked at certainly seem to be higher rated at NewEgg (I don't put much faith in reviews, but it's nice to know they're not melting or anything :tongue: )
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