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Easy solution! Just grind until you can survive it.
casting slow isn't supposed to cause him to use different dialogue? maybe it was a fluke then. he only ever said "ouch" that one time in this one battle when i casted slow, though.
i think i see what you're saying about ff4. the battle ended the same way-hitting him after his second kick. the difference was that his hp was 65000.
and, yes, i did notice the difference in the conversation. very cool.
So multiple castings of Safe work together? Is it the same with Haste and Slow?
hmm... so in the original ff4, the battle doesn't stop after cecil hits yang after his second kick? you actually have to drain all his hp? i haven't played through j2e's translation in years, so i don't remember.
i know that no animation doesn't mean it didn't work, thus this: "or is he casting it but there's no animation, so i don't know it's happening?"
i didn't really think about it before, but i started using some utility spells(as opposed to attack/healing spells), and it's really helping. safe seriously trimmed yang's damage down to nothing, and blink helped me build up the safe barrier.
also, i ended up hitting him with slow as an experiment. he used a different battle message, so i take it that i got the right spell to cause him to use the speedsong counter, but he still seems slowed down. maybe it's just me.
i finally got this to a manageable level. it took like 4 or 5 castings of safe and a half dozen uses of blink by tella to get me there, but he finally can barely hurt me. now i can just keep plinking his hp down slowly...
do i actually have to drain yang's 65k hp? the battle doesn't end the normal way, so i take it that i do.
and i'm looking at his attack script, and i don't see it ending, so i guess i do. also, this:
If Casted on by Character
Battle Message $12
Cast <$36>SpdSong ($BD)
doesn't seem to be happening when i hit him with a spell. is that what's supposed to trigger it? i hit him with a spell, he says something, and casts that spell? or is he casting it but there's no animation, so i don't know it's happening?
ah damn, i should've looked in the editor first. every time i would try to hit them with a spell, there wouldn't be a zero, nothing happened. it seemed wrong, because i haven't played through in so long. definitely forgot about that. thanks.
you know, i pretty much never use bows when i play, but they're certainly turning out to be pretty invaluable here.
i just went back to read the post, and i take it i'm done once i recruit yang? i see the monsters in the waterway are still being worked on. or do you have baigan and the king done too?
why can i not kill the ghasts after killing milon? i've tried pretty much every way possible between physical and magic, and i can't seem to hurt them.
Keep in mind that while they have high magic defense, the Ghasts still have the same elemental properties.
this is me right now, by the way:
i'm on mt. ordeals and (obviously) not yet a paladin.
tella just joined at lv. 34! pretty cool.
err... i just ran into a group of 2 souls, 2 zombies, and 2 revenants. a little bit into it, a message came up from an officer to attack. is that on purpose, like the souls are ordering the zombies, et al? cause if it is, that's really fucking cool.
hmm... so the editor has it wrong then? i'm just reciting what i read in zyr's new(er) editor. i'm not insinuating you're wrong, god knows i trust you over the editor, but how much is the difference between the 2? attack power over 2 means the attack still needs to be multiplied out, so it won't necessarily be 1/2 of the normal damage, right? whereas dam/4 is just that?
also, while i'm on the subject, i've only ever run into evil palom solo, never evil porom. i've seen them together a few times, but porom never shows up alone. is that just a fluke?
what are the other wizard helm advantages? i didn't see anything except dmg/4 from undead? is that what you're referring to?
one of the evil twins just hit me with virus and it did 30 dmg on average. can you bump their stats up a bit? this would be super cool if they were tougher. burst just hit me for 31. yeah, they definitely need a boost.
also, granted it's more of a girl thing, but why can't palom equip the tiara? it boosts wisdom by 10, so he could use it. unless, of course, that's exactly why he can't use it. between it and the black robe, his wisdom goes up by, what, 15? that's a lot for this part of the game. plus, it gives a nice def. boost. and he does have the wizard helm as an option, too, but then again so does porom.
i think i have the evil twins straightened out now. evil palom has the orange cape, while evil porom has the green cape, right?
also, i just noticed that porom comes with stone. why is stone a white magic spell? not that i mind at all, i think it's great! i just thought it's odd to have an id spell in the white category. although, rydia has magic fists... and it's nice that porom has some good offense for the time being. she's usually pretty worthless as soon as you get her. although, once she learns cure2, she's much more worthwhile. that and a bow, and she contributes a fair amount. actually, in this case, i can give her a headband(instead of gaea) to get some more damage out of her...
err... evil twin... hmm... ok. here goes... this ought to be interesting.
ooooohhh... they drop niiiice things. also, though, he didn't really do very much during the battle. evilpalom casted mute on actual palom, cure3-ed himself twice, and didn't do much after that. it was kinda disappointing.
shield bonus? it's +5 to str and -5 to everything else. i have one on cecil right now, but everyone else is fine without one.
or am i forgetting about something?
ooooh, wait, now i know. you mean the late-game shields and their bonuses to evasion, etc? right?
btw, it's not something i've ever thought about before, but now i am: is edward's harp a back row weapon? i've never stopped to consider it before, cause i never cared, but now that info will be mighty handy.
well, i did quite a bit of leveling. rydia is at lv. 24, cecil is at 25, and ed is at 23. i'm just about to kill the antlion. hopefully that was enough levels through fabul...
btw, the edward fight is fucking cool.
wow, white arrows are HANDY on mt. hobs. i usually never hang on to them, but i decided to try something different this time around. certainly glad i did. rosa just hit a skeleton for 1002 damage when aim-ing with one.
i like the changes to mombomb, the battle is more challenging and fun like that. i managed it on my first try. actually, the grinding is a bit more enjoyable now, too, since the monsters sometimes drop actually useful things!
also, i got a few firetraps from some skeletons, and one of those really helped with making sure i got yang at full hp for the mombomb fight. very cool.
btw, did you do anything to edward's weapons? he seems to inflict charm/sleep constantly as opposed to on occasion.
hmm, i think i know what the cursed shield does. it quarters race damage along with giving you the absorb property, right?
