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Deathlike2

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FF4A "Resistance" Descriptions
« on: December 06, 2007, 07:42:22 AM »
In some of the equipment you can buy at Mysidia, they are described as having certain protection against ghouls and undead.

Are these actual resistances or BS descriptions?

Note: Some of the Crystal equipment also has such descriptions, so it's not just a random question.  :tongue:

If these resistances are real though, do they also apply to FF2/4?
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Re: FF4A "Resistance" Descriptions
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2007, 01:31:07 PM »
They're actual resistances. In FF4, just as weapons can have bonus damage against certain monster races, armors can likewise have bonus defense against certain races.
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Re: FF4A "Resistance" Descriptions
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2007, 01:34:11 PM »
I presume it is a specific damage reduction factor? (50% most likely..?)

Are those that I have listed the only ones or are there more (and perhaps some that haven't been used...?)
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Re: FF4A "Resistance" Descriptions
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2007, 02:44:24 PM »
Armor can have the following resistances: Dragons, machines, reptiles, spirits, giants, flans, mages, and undead. No armor resists machines or flans so those can be considered unused. The resistance causes a 75% reduction in damage.
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Re: FF4A "Resistance" Descriptions
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2007, 03:04:15 PM »
Quote from: Dragonsbrethren on December 06, 2007, 02:44:24 PM
Armor can have the following resistances: Dragons, machines, reptiles, spirits, giants, flans, mages, and undead. No armor resists machines or flans so those can be considered unused. The resistance causes a 75% reduction in damage.

Before I make my guesses, but why the hell isn't any of this documented? (I've posed similar questions prior to this, such as weapons that work against Flans.)

The "best" last known documentation of this game was Ben Siron's FF2 info from way back, but even that is simply incomplete.

Lemme guess the equipment that have the resistances...

Dragons: Kain's Dragon Armor set
Reptiles: Ice Shield/Armor? (it is that or the Fire Shield/Armor)
Spirits: Mythril Armor set plus Silver Ring (as stated by FF4A's info)
Giants: Zeus Gloves (or whatever they are called).. perhaps the Power Armband and/or Power Suit?
Mages: Rune Rings
Undead: Crystal Shield+Gloves, "Paladin equipment set"

Does that sound about right?
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Re: FF4A "Resistance" Descriptions
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2007, 03:20:05 PM »
  • Dragon: Dragoon Shield, Dragoon Helm, Tiara, Dragoon Armor, Dragoon Gloves, Crystal Ring
  • Reptile: Ice Shield
  • Spirit: Silver Shield, Silver Helm, Silver Armor, White Robe, Silver Gloves, Silver Ring
  • Giant: Zeus Gloves
  • Undead: Paladin Shield, Crystal Shield, Paladin Helm, Crystal Helm, Wizard Hat, Paladin Armor, Crystal Armor, Sorcerer Robe, White Robe, Paladin Gloves, Crystal Gloves
  • Mage: Aegis Shield, Ribbon, Rune Ring
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Re: FF4A "Resistance" Descriptions
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2007, 03:35:45 PM »
Sounds close to what I had...  :hmm:

I will eventually follow up with a different post though.

Do you know if any of the new armor (FF4A) fall into any of the catagories?
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Re: FF4A "Resistance" Descriptions
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2007, 03:43:10 PM »
No, I never looked into it.
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Re: FF4A "Resistance" Descriptions
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2007, 03:46:41 PM »
Ok.. is this resistance strictly against physical attacks or do they actually include spells as well?
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Re: FF4A "Resistance" Descriptions
« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2007, 04:10:37 PM »
I'm pretty sure they're just for physical attacks, spells as far as I know are always the same regardless of who's casting them.
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Re: FF4A "Resistance" Descriptions
« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2007, 04:43:29 PM »
Quick weapons checklist against those types:

Dragon: Dragoon Spear, Dragon Whip, Artemis Arrows
Reptile: Ice Rod
Spirit: Legend Sword, Light Sword, Excalibur, Crystal Sword, Silver Sword, Silver Staff, Silver Knife, Silver Hammer, Avenger Sword, White Spear, White Arrows, Artemis Bow
Giant: Ogre Axe, Poison Axe, Charm Claw, Charm Arrows, Drain Sword, Drain Spear
Undead: Legend Sword, Light Sword, Excalibur, Crystal Sword, White Spear, White Arrows
Mage: Mute Knife, Mute Arrows, Elven Bow, Silence Staff, Rune Axe
Mech: Thunder Claw, Thunder Arrows, Wooden Hammer, Silver Hammer, Earth Hammer
Flan: Drain Sword, Drain Spear

Sound about right?
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Re: FF4A "Resistance" Descriptions
« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2007, 08:25:02 PM »
It's easier for me to make my own list to compare with:

Dragon: Dragoon Lance, Dragon Whip, Artemis Arrows
Machine: Thunder Claw, Silver Hammer, Earth Hammer, Wooden Hammer, Lit Arrows
Reptile: IceRod
Spirit: Ancient Sword, White Lance, Silver Knife, Silver Sword, Silver Hammer, White Arrows
Giant: Charm Claw, Drain Sword, Drain Lance, Ogre Axe, Poison Axe, Charm Arrows
Flan: Drain Sword, Drain Lance
Mage: Silence Staff, Mute Knife, RuneAxe, ElvenBow, Mute Arrows
Undead: Lilith Rod, Silver Staff, Drain Sword, Drain Lance, Crystal Sword, Dummy, White Arrows
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Re: FF4A "Resistance" Descriptions
« Reply #12 on: December 11, 2007, 08:58:56 PM »
Quote from: Dragonsbrethren on December 11, 2007, 08:25:02 PM
It's easier for me to make my own list to compare with:

Dragon: Dragoon Lance, Dragon Whip, Artemis Arrows
Machine: Thunder Claw, Silver Hammer, Earth Hammer, Wooden Hammer, Lit Arrows
Reptile: IceRod
Spirit: Ancient Sword, White Lance, Silver Knife, Silver Sword, Silver Hammer, White Arrows
Giant: Charm Claw, Drain Sword, Drain Lance, Ogre Axe, Poison Axe, Charm Arrows
Flan: Drain Sword, Drain Lance
Mage: Silence Staff, Mute Knife, RuneAxe, ElvenBow, Mute Arrows
Undead: Lilith Rod, Silver Staff, Drain Sword, Drain Lance, Crystal Sword, Dummy, White Arrows

I thought the Artemis Bow+Avenger fell into the Spirit catagory...

The Dummy is what?

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Re: FF4A "Resistance" Descriptions
« Reply #13 on: December 11, 2007, 09:16:37 PM »
A two-handed copy of the Crystal Sword that no one can equip. J2e called it "Spare" in their FF4 translation.
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Re: FF4A "Resistance" Descriptions
« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2007, 11:46:09 AM »
A small FF4A info post:

Lightbringer is effective against both Undead+Spirits
Hand of the Gods (Yang's Claw) is effective against both Undead+Spirits

There are other a couple obvious documented ones, such as Apollo's Harp and Dragon Claw...
Mist Whip and Asura's Rod doesn't seem to have any extra attributes other than being Holy elemental.
I'm unsure about some of the other weapons such as Triton's Dagger, Loki's Lute,  Perseus's Bow/Arrows...

Edit: Flandango has a "description" of being a Holy Sword, but fails to even have be a Holy elemental....
Triton's Dagger could have been anti-Reptile, but it isn't...
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