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Re: NFL season (2009-2010), week 19 - playoffs?!
« Reply #135 on: January 17, 2010, 12:40:14 PM »
My Sat picks are apparently rubbish. 
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Re: NFL season (2009-2010), week 19 - playoffs?!
« Reply #136 on: January 17, 2010, 02:32:47 PM »
Yeah, I didn't do any better. :sad: Both of us have to hope our Sunday picks work out. :cookie:
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Re: NFL season (2009-2010), week 19 - playoffs?!
« Reply #137 on: January 17, 2010, 02:38:24 PM »
There's still time on the game, but eh, the Cowboys lost both sides of the line of scrimmage as the game progressed. Congrats to Vikings.
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Re: NFL season (2009-2010), week 19 - playoffs?!
« Reply #138 on: January 17, 2010, 03:08:26 PM »
- yeah, the Cowboys offensive line was mush.
- it was lame of the Vikings to go tacking on a TD with 1:55 to play.
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Re: NFL season (2009-2010), week 19 - playoffs?!
« Reply #139 on: January 17, 2010, 03:14:00 PM »
Quote from: assassin on January 17, 2010, 03:08:26 PM
- it was lame of the Vikings to go tacking on a TD with 1:55 to play.

It was 4th down, and the Cowboys are supposed to stop it. They simply can't. Giving up 30+ points is a fault of the defense, and not a responsibility of the Vikings offense to stop. You would've preferred the guaranteed 3 point FG?

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Note: This is the same team that went for it on 4th down earlier and Favre tried to throw a 4th TD to Rice, who had a career day. That didn't work out, but if you don't see the flaw in your gripe about a similar but unsuccessful play, then whatever I guess.
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Re: NFL season (2009-2010), week 19 - playoffs?!
« Reply #140 on: January 17, 2010, 03:32:55 PM »
(5) Jets @ (2) Chargers: Chargers, 24-20.  The Jets kind of remind me of the Ravens.  A 9-7 defensive powerhouse who defeats a 10-6 team in the first round of the playoffs while using a rushing-heavy offensive approach.  Now, the Jets were plenty more balanced than the 1st round ravens were, with Mark Sanchez turning in a lofty 139.4 QB rating.  And the Bengals' defense was a stronger foe than the Patriots'.  Still, I can't help but think that the San Diego defense knows what's coming.  Can a New York offense who was 31st in passing in the regular season adjust if the running game is stagnant early?  The Jets had 4 regular season losses to sub-.500 (final record) teams, which is kinda sad.  But they did improve as things went on, winning 5 of their last 6 (even if two of those wins were against pushovers, and one against a resting Indy).  However, San Diego finished even stronger, winning their last 11 games. :whoa:  The Jets' league-leading rushing will stack up quite well against the Chargers' 20th-ranked run defense.  Still, Baltimore had a similar favorable matchup against Indy, and look how they fared.  So it's imperative that the Jets open things up, and Sanchez has some success throwing the ball.  15 pass attempts probably won't be enough.  Against common opponents, both teams beat Oakland and Cincinnati, but the Jets did so more dominantly.  Both teams beat Tennessee, but San Diego did so more definitively.  The Chargers beat 7-9 Miami, while the Jets narrowly lost to them twice.  So I'd give an edge in common matchups to San Diego.  In contrast, I wouldn't count their home field as much of an edge; they won more on the road this year, and the Jets played better on the road than at home.  As a Bears fan, I should really be pulling for the Jets, since they have Thomas Jones running, and a Buddy Ryan offspring as their head couch.  Best of luck to them, but I'm still betting on the Chargers here. :P
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Re: NFL season (2009-2010), week 19 - playoffs?!
« Reply #141 on: January 17, 2010, 03:40:17 PM »
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It was 4th down, and the Cowboys are supposed to stop it. They simply can't. Giving up 30+ points is a fault of the defense, and not a responsibility of the Vikings offense to stop. You would've preferred the guaranteed 3 point FG?

like Joe Buck said, i thought the Vikings would merely go for a 1st down, then run down the clock.  even if they failed to convert, it's not like the Cowboys had any chance whatsoever of tying the game with no timeouts left.  i never said the defense was without fault, but they wouldn't have had to defend against a touchdown pass in the first place if the Vikings weren't showing poor sportsmanship and piling on.


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Note: This is the same team that went for it on 4th down earlier and Favre tried to throw a 4th TD to Rice, who had a career day. That didn't work out, but if you don't see the flaw in your gripe about a similar but unsuccessful play, then whatever I guess.

so because i didn't gripe about an unsuccessful TD throw, i'm not allowed to gripe about an actual TD throw?  F U. :P  i'm not obligated to list every instance of (attempted) score bloating.

the operative word here is "sportsmanship".  the game was no longer at stake with Minnesota leading 27-3.  so what they did can only be construed as piling on.  if you don't believe in this aspect of sportsmanship, just say so; don't try and split hairs over my critique.
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Re: NFL season (2009-2010), week 19 - playoffs?!
« Reply #142 on: January 17, 2010, 03:45:01 PM »
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and a Buddy Ryan offspring as their head couch.

"coach", even.
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Re: NFL season (2009-2010), week 19 - playoffs?!
« Reply #143 on: January 17, 2010, 03:56:12 PM »
Quote from: assassin on January 17, 2010, 03:40:17 PM
so because i didn't gripe about an unsuccessful TD throw, i'm not allowed to gripe about an actual TD throw?  F U. :P  i'm not obligated to list every instance of (attempted) score bloating.

the operative word here is "sportsmanship".  the game was no longer at stake with Minnesota leading 27-3.  so what they did can only be construed as piling on.  if you don't believe in this aspect of sportsmanship, just say so; don't try and split hairs over my critique.

Sportsmanship is one thing, but when you're at the best level of play, it doesn't really matter. Worrying about running up the score is something kids younger than 18 should not have to face (seeing kids crying on tv is not appreciable). It hasn't stopped college football nor the pro-game from doing it. Frankly, if you're losing because you can't do a thing, then there's nothing to gripe about. At this level of play, this is like crying about spilled milk. There is no "nice" way of losing (or winning for that matter). The result is the same. If you want to hold it for the next time a team plays, sure, but that's the reality of the game that was played.
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Re: NFL season (2009-2010), week 19 - playoffs?!
« Reply #144 on: January 17, 2010, 06:58:37 PM »
Wow.. shocking upset by the Jets. It's amazing how the last game is the more interesting game.

Time for revenge rematch!

Congrats to JCE for being perfect.... a perfect 0fer. Better luck next time  :wtf:

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Key turnovers and the Jets defense holding its part of the bargain is the key to the win.
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Re: NFL season (2009-2010), week 19 - playoffs?!
« Reply #145 on: January 17, 2010, 07:13:28 PM »
Quote from: assassin on January 17, 2010, 01:55:01 AM
In other words, exactly what a quarterback would look like if designed by God himself -- provided He had at least eight days and didn't rush.  Isn't that right, Pat?  Terdunken!
Didn't you retire from broadcasting? :tongue:

I'm still trying to piece this last game together. :omg:
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Re: NFL season (2009-2010), week 19 - playoffs?!
« Reply #146 on: January 17, 2010, 07:21:28 PM »
yeah, usually AFC games bore me to tears for some reason (one might be that i could barely hear Nance and Simms talking about the crowd noise; is CBS too dumb to adjust for this?), but this one was plenty exciting.

congrats to the Jets.  as i predicted, they threw more than last week -- but they got less yardage out of it.  so mainly, they stuck to their style of play, with team rushing stats nigh identical to the 1st round.  they bode their time until their defense got them sweet field position with a turnover.  good work by Sanchez getting a touchdown out of it.  and Shonn Greene moves fast for a fire hydrant.

i feel bad for Kaeding.  some of these choking kickers should really look into pot or at least wine, since it's the mental aspect that's overwhelming them.

'twas cool to see Thomas Jones secure the win on that last run.

i'm not sure what to expect in the AFC Championship game, with strength against strength, but it should prove entertaining.
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Re: NFL season (2009-2010), week 19 - playoffs?!
« Reply #147 on: January 17, 2010, 07:35:58 PM »
Quote from: Lenophis on January 17, 2010, 07:13:28 PM
I'm still trying to piece this last game together. :omg:

It's not hard. The fact that the Jets won is shacking, but how they won isn't.

It's back to the fundamentals... good defense and the QB has to manage the game and minimize turnovers. Sure Sanchez made one bad decision, but the defense erased it. If anything, the defense made the key plays to succeed.

The one major blunder would arguably be the onside kick. 4th and 1 would not have gone like that... most people would punt in that instance. With the field position that the Jets had, the risk/reward didn't seem so bad especially when the defense could be relied upon to get the job done, so it wasn't an insane risk by the Jets.

Nate Kaeding has a notable track record of chocking unfortunately.
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Re: NFL season (2009-2010), week 19 - playoffs?!
« Reply #148 on: January 17, 2010, 07:48:12 PM »
Round 2 playoff results:

Lenophis: 1-3
Deathlike2: 1-3
JCE3000GT: 0-4
assassin17: 2-2

Cumulative playoff results:

JCE3000GT: 0-4  (dunno if i should count him since he's not in whole playoffs, but whatever)
Deathlike2: 2-6
assassin17: 3-5
Lenophis: 4-4

out of the 7 "round picks" we've had so far in the playoffs, only one of us has broken 50% in a round (Lenophis with 3-1 last week).  and he's the only one >= 50% overall.  we're worse than monkeys flipping coins. :/
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Re: NFL season (2009-2010), week 19 - playoffs?!
« Reply #149 on: January 17, 2010, 10:29:42 PM »
There is one game in the Cowboys season that I recall watching.. Chargers @ Cowboys where that Cowboys defense was lit up. Of course that same offense couldn't do anything to the Jets.. but the Jets have essentially the best defense of all the playoff teams...
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