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Final Fantasy V Research & Development / Re: Wiki discussion
« on: March 02, 2015, 10:05:45 AM »

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Final Fantasy V Research & Development / Re: Wiki discussion
« on: March 02, 2015, 07:51:21 AM »
It seems we use FFV and FF5 in links. I think we should standardize them to V since that's the real name of the game (although we all know V = 5 in roman numeral). I read that you can redirect them, but I haven't tried that (and I cannot delete pages as far as I know, so I don't want to create dead pages).
I always use "Final Fantasy V" when space is plentyful and "FF5" when space is sparse. There is a good reason why I use "FF5" and not "FFV". "FFV" can be misunderstood as something else. I often have to look closely to make sure it is FFV (not FFIV, FFVI, FMV, etc.), especially in URLs and other places where the font size is small. This is why I decided to use "FF5" instead, which pretty much cannot be misunderstood. Look at the examples below:

http://slickproductions.org/slickwiki/index.php/FF5_Bug:Gilgamesh_may_not_appear_versus_Necrophobe
http://slickproductions.org/slickwiki/index.php/FFV_Bug:Gilgamesh_may_not_appear_versus_Necrophobe

Which one is easier to read? I cannot read the second link without looking closely to make sure there is no "I" in between the "F" and "V". I know "FF5" is not 100% correct naming, but I think the practical benefits are more important.

I still feel that having "FFV_Bug:" at the beginning of the link is a bit unnecessary and bad practice in a wiki. I believe we all are newbs in doing wikis, but I'm sure there's a way to label the pages in order to have shorter links and still know which game they are related to (like labeling or categorizing pages).
Are you suggesting this?
http://slickproductions.org/slickwiki/index.php/Gilgamesh_may_not_appear_versus_Necrophobe

There are two issues with that. Firstly, when you see this link on a website somewhere you will have no idea what this page is about. Secondly, without a namespace there might be conflicts when two pages have the same name. I'm all for labelling pages, but it is my belief that the URL should give you a basic idea what it refers to.

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Final Fantasy V Research & Development / Wiki discussion
« on: March 01, 2015, 05:23:58 AM »
Slick Productions wiki:
http://slickproductions.org/slickwiki/index.php/Main_Page

This topic is for discussion regarding Final Fantasy V material in the wiki.

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Final Fantasy V Research & Development / Re: FF5 Bugs & Glitches
« on: February 25, 2015, 11:17:57 AM »
The only problem I see with naming is that we should go for names that people have referred (so they know which bug were talking about). The problem lies that sometimes the name is not accurate to describe what it really is happening. For example: Skipping Linna glitch. While you're initially skipping her, the problem lies with the Time magic Return which allows you to continue your quest for a while triggering some other bugs in the process...
I think we should go for accuracy. If a bug has an inappropriate name, we should just give it a new name, don't you think?

As for bug vs glitch they are pretty much the same (programming errors). What I remember it was that glitches are more oriented to graphical/sound errors while bugs are oriented to bad programming missing cases (like the underflow bug that lets you have infinite items or 255 Mg power). I would say it's best to avoid technicalities and simple call all of them as bugs in the link. (Then inside the page, you can refer it as a glitch if needed)
Ok, good point. I think that would be the best way to do it. So, should we rename the page from "FF5_Bugs_and_Glitches" to just "FF5_Bugs"?

I haven't created a page yet on the wiki, so I don't know how easy is to rename them if needed (that's why I suggested to name them as "Category + #list", as links would hardly change unless you labeled wrong). And you can still refer them with the name given, it's just the page that would have such name.
Renaming pages is easy. You simply use "Move" to give it a new name. Dead links is not an issue because the wiki automatically sets up a redirect so people get forwarded to the new page.

As of now, we have 2 suggestions:
http://slickproductions.org/slickwiki/index.php/FF5_Bug:Walk_through_walls_in_the_Pyramid
http://slickproductions.org/slickwiki/index.php/FF5_Bug:Miscellaneous_05

I prefer the first one because it looks nicer and is more descriptive. If you see that link somewhere you don't have to click the link to know which bug it links to. The second option will cause some problems if a bug is moved to another category.

BTW, any feedback with the video?
Like was the LUA script helpful or bothersome. Should I tweak it or remove it? etc...
I'm not sure if that bug really needed a video. I watched for 5 minutes just to see that Gilgamesh did not appear.  :tongue:
It was pretty well done though.

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Final Fantasy V Research & Development / Re: FF5 Bugs & Glitches
« on: February 25, 2015, 07:01:35 AM »
I think we could name the bugs (just like in the wikia, replacing "description" to "name"), change the column for comments to link and then place the complete information for each bug in their corresponding sub-page. I guess we could name the pages as Category + #list (example: Miscellaneous_05 would link to the "Walk through walls in the Pyramid" bug)
Yes, that's what I had in mind as well. I also think they should be named, but, if we give them numbers there will be complications (what to do when a bug/glitch is removed, moved to another category, etc.). I'm going to suggest that we simply give them names and nothing else, so the URLs become something like this:

http://slickproductions.org/slickwiki/index.php/FF5_Bug:Walk_through_walls_in_the_Pyramid

or if it is a glitch:
http://slickproductions.org/slickwiki/index.php/FF5_Glitch:Walk_through_walls_in_the_Pyramid

It's more convenient for us when we make changes to the bug/glitch list, and easier to manage in general. Of course we have to decide which entries are glitches and which ones are bugs.
Thoughts?

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Final Fantasy V Research & Development / Re: FF5 Bugs & Glitches
« on: February 24, 2015, 06:01:20 AM »
Is it really neccessary? Almost all of the bugs can be understood with text only, and there is really no space left to use.

What if we make a sub-page for each bug/glitch? That would grant additional space where we can put technical details, images and/or videos.

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Final Fantasy V Research & Development / Re: New ROM map
« on: February 16, 2015, 12:45:46 PM »
Ok, thank you. I'll be adding new info there soon.
In addition to this, maybe it would be interesting having a 'root' page displaying all the content available in the wiki isn't it?
The main link to "Wiki!" redirects to http://slickproductions.org/slickwiki/index.php/Main_Page but there isn't any other link in that page.
Could you edit that page to add links to every relevant wiki page (./FF5_ROM_map, ./Final_Fantasy_V_Hacking, etc...)?

Sure, I'll add some links. You can reach the ROM map page in "FF5 hacking" under "Collaborations".

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Ok. Once I finish up with the Legends of the Crystals update, gonna jump back and poke at IPS modifications.

https://www.codeisle.com/products/international-patching-system-ips-patch-viewer/

That seems like a decent way to get a quick list of bytes changed, yes?

I made a new topic for this:
http://slickproductions.org/forum/index.php?topic=2013.0

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Final Fantasy V Research & Development / New ROM map
« on: February 16, 2015, 04:20:38 AM »
Digitsie and I have been discussing the need for a community-driven ROM map page for the wiki. I think it's a good idea to have a page where anyone can chip in and contribute. I see some of you have been adding things to my own ROM-overview page. I very much appreciate your help, but I wanted to administrate that page myself as it is part of my hacking docs collection. Thus, I started a new page.

http://slickproductions.org/slickwiki/index.php/FF5_ROM_map

All the information from the old ROM overview has been copied over. Change everything as you please, since you may need to reformat it to include the information on offsets changed by the various patches.

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Final Fantasy V Research & Development / Re: LUT @ C0/FEC0 used for RNG
« on: February 13, 2015, 04:32:00 AM »
Interesting! Why not add this to the wiki?

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Sounds like you will need to edit the assembly code for job changing and setting abilities. Somewhere there is a check where it detects if you are using Freelancer/Mimic. What you need to do is change it so it always returns true. It might be glitchy, though.

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Final Fantasy V Research & Development / Re: FF5 Bugs & Glitches
« on: February 06, 2015, 12:52:56 AM »
I sure haven't.

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Welcome! Always nice to see new members.  :wink:

I don't know anything about palettes, but our wiki might be of help, assuming you are using the SNES version:
http://slickproductions.org/slickwiki/index.php/Final_Fantasy_V_Hacking

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Final Fantasy V Research & Development / Re: FF5 Bugs & Glitches
« on: January 30, 2015, 05:05:40 AM »
That's in the GBA version. All I know is that it doesn't work when it should.
http://slickproductions.org/forum/index.php?topic=510.0

I fixed it in the 2nd post.

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Well...I suppose I can do that. That's a long time from now, though.

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