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JCE3000GT

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A world without men?
« on: July 10, 2009, 10:55:52 PM »
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=4725121&page=1

Bullshit.  This doctor who is pioneering this needs to have his end.  He is a traitor to all men by trying to engineer us out.  I feel like this is some sort of sci-fi plot. 
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Re: A world without men?
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2009, 11:32:52 PM »
I think you missed the point, and I think it zoomed over your head like that Ferrari you're dreaming about. He isn't engineering us out, he's stating that the male will eventually become extinct. If he was trying to engineer us out, he'd be secretly developing a male-only STD. :tongue:
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Re: A world without men?
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2009, 11:34:13 PM »
Makes no difference to me, since I don't plan to live 100,000 years :P
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Re: A world without men?
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2009, 01:51:04 AM »
Quote from: Lenophis on July 10, 2009, 11:32:52 PM
I think you missed the point, and I think it zoomed over your head like that Ferrari you're dreaming about. He isn't engineering us out, he's stating that the male will eventually become extinct. If he was trying to engineer us out, he'd be secretly developing a male-only STD. :tongue:

No I got the point, and I hate Ferrari's.  He IS engineering us out if he continues with his research for a woman + woman fertilization.  Women are going to be giving birth to a baby using another woman's DNA--that technology and the research that bought it is what is going to kill off men.  Besides never will happen anyway, I still just disgusted with such an article (and Nightline story) stating that we are "obsolete". 

Rubbish.
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Re: A world without men?
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2009, 08:25:21 AM »
I can only imagine this doctor's experiences in high school...

Besides, even if this research comes to pass, you have to look at the fact that, at least for a generation or two, a good percentage of women will probably opt out of such an option. There are quite a few women in the rest of the world who would look at such a thing in horror, if only because they've been brought up to believe that it's a man and a woman that make a family work.
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Re: A world without men?
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2009, 02:55:36 PM »
Quote from: darkmage on July 11, 2009, 08:25:21 AM
I can only imagine this doctor's experiences in high school...

Besides, even if this research comes to pass, you have to look at the fact that, at least for a generation or two, a good percentage of women will probably opt out of such an option. There are quite a few women in the rest of the world who would look at such a thing in horror, if only because they've been brought up to believe that it's a man and a woman that make a family work.

Lets hope to GOD that they continue to feel this way.  I don't like how progressively secular the world's getting.  Just like women, we men have our uses and reasons why we are here.  If it was part of humanity's plan to not have men then why were we put here to begin with? 
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Re: A world without men?
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2009, 06:23:13 PM »
Quote from: JCE3000GT on July 11, 2009, 01:51:04 AM
He IS engineering us out if he continues with his research for a woman + woman fertilization.
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But surely, flawed Y chromosome or not, bad behavior or not, we are needed for procreation. Women can't have babies without us … right? I'm afraid, pretty soon they won't need our sperm, our chromosomes, our anything.

Until now, female-only reproduction has been limited to the plant and animal kingdom. So-called parthenogenesis, observed in the Cape Honey Bee, the Kimono Dragon and the hammerhead shark. In humans: confined to 1950s B movies. But Sykes says the technology for women to procreate without us is just around the corner.

"Within the next few years you will get two women having a child who is the biological child of both of them," Sykes said. "And entirely normal in every respect, but always female."
Where in that blob does it say that he is the one spearheading this? I see no mention that he's the one behind it, he's only stating that it's likely to happen.

Quote from: JCE3000GT on July 11, 2009, 02:55:36 PM
Lets hope to GOD that they continue to feel this way.  I don't like how progressively secular the world's getting.  Just like women, we men have our uses and reasons why we are here.
You mean I'm not here to life my own life? My goal is to do exactly what someone else wants?

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If it was part of humanity's plan to not have men then why were we put here to begin with?
Do you always blow things out of proportion, or is fear the driving force in your life?

[spoiler]I really don't like where this is going...[/spoiler]
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Re: A world without men?
« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2009, 12:25:04 AM »
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If it was part of humanity's plan to not have men then why were we put here to begin with?

To engineer a female-female pregancy!  That, and to earn money so womenfolk can buy shiny trinkets.
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Re: A world without men?
« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2009, 01:21:21 AM »
I'm not really that worried, given that the following is true:

1) There's a slightly greater chance that a male will be born.. this is documented (it's like 52% or something). On the other hand, they die more often (blame it on war and whatnot).

2) The key to human evolution has to begin with normal mating. I'm not sure society will mandate procreation by test tubes. It just won't happen, unless we believe we'll become some Amazon nation...

3) Both genders need each other, whether they agree or not. Working together brings far more potential for anything in life... isolation is not good for anyone.
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Re: A world without men?
« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2009, 06:49:45 AM »
Really, the only thing I see this research being used for is to allow lesbian couples to have their own children, rather than relying on a sperm donor. Which is completely reasonable to me, provided the child is as healthy as one conceived the normal way. I didn't see it touched on in the article (which was the standard sensationalist tripe the media is so infamous for), but doesn't this research mean that completely infertile men could also have biological children? Somehow I doubt you'd be so opposed to that, provided the infertility isn't genetic.

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Re: A world without men?
« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2009, 08:52:52 AM »
Quote from: assassin on July 12, 2009, 12:25:04 AM
Quote from: JCE3000GT
If it was part of humanity's plan to not have men then why were we put here to begin with?

To engineer a female-female pregancy!  That, and to earn money so womenfolk can buy shiny trinkets.


Men are pro-lesbians... for the most part.  :laugh:
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