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« on: August 26, 2010, 06:04:08 AM »
Does anyone happen to still have a Windows 98 (preferably SE) install disc lying around they're willing to part with? I've got a handful of games here that run terribly since my upgrade, and every piece of advice for getting them to work either fixes them partway, or doesn't help at all. I'd like to try doing a virtual install of 98, but the only disc I have here is a recovery CD from my first PC, and there's no way of just installing Windows with it that I can see.
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Re: Windows 98
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2010, 11:44:03 AM »
Are these games DOS based? DOSBox should more well enough.

If they aren't DOS games, at least mention what they are...

Besides... what OS are you using? 2k/XP or whatever compatibility should be "enough" unless there's some issues I'm not keen to.
Usually, the main problem is not upgrading your drivers especially if you run through an upgrade process and not a clean install.

If worse comes to worse... yarrrgghhhh!
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Re: Windows 98
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2010, 01:10:05 PM »
No, not DOS games, some older Win95 stuff that doesn't get along with Windows 7 x64 too well. Trust me, I've looked into every common solution for these problems, solved them for some games, but there just aren't any fixes for the few the remain. The most irritating one at the moment, since I want to play through it again now that I've got the expansion, is Tiberian Sun. It runs awfully on modern hardware, and the only "solution" is to disable hardware acceleration for DirectDraw, which results in a blank screen on some hardware, mine included. The game's utterly unplayable once you have more than a handful of units on the screen at once, due to constant framerate fluctuations.

Another one, the Win95 version of SimCity 2000, crashes any time you attempt to save. For now I'm playing the DOS version, but that's capped at 640x480, Win95 can run at your desktop resolution. (I've also heard SimCity 3000 craps out on multi-core processors, but I haven't tried that one myself, never liked it as much as 2K or 4.) I could probably get away with using XP for them, but I'd rather go 98, some of these games already had minor issues on XP.

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Re: Windows 98
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2010, 01:50:54 PM »
Windows '98 was the best version of Windows ever. XP was alright but only in classic mode. I'm iffy with windows 7. Just enough problems to make me wish I never upgraded. (1 problem).

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Re: Windows 98
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2010, 04:10:02 PM »
No, not DOS games, some older Win95 stuff that doesn't get along with Windows 7 x64 too well. Trust me, I've looked into every common solution for these problems, solved them for some games, but there just aren't any fixes for the few the remain. The most irritating one at the moment, since I want to play through it again now that I've got the expansion, is Tiberian Sun. It runs awfully on modern hardware, and the only "solution" is to disable hardware acceleration for DirectDraw, which results in a blank screen on some hardware, mine included. The game's utterly unplayable once you have more than a handful of units on the screen at once, due to constant framerate fluctuations.

Well, Tiberian Sun is free... and it does run insanely slow, but I'm not sure what you can do about that. The problem is if you do plan to run an older OS, is if you have that aging hardware to go with it. Attempts to use modern systems with such an OS is asking for trouble.

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Another one, the Win95 version of SimCity 2000, crashes any time you attempt to save. For now I'm playing the DOS version, but that's capped at 640x480, Win95 can run at your desktop resolution. (I've also heard SimCity 3000 craps out on multi-core processors, but I haven't tried that one myself, never liked it as much as 2K or 4.) I could probably get away with using XP for them, but I'd rather go 98, some of these games already had minor issues on XP.

You are far better using XP for this. If your system specs are low enough, you "might" be able to manage Win98.

Alternatively... the other solution is to run something like VMWare for this purpose. This might require some inordinate amount of overhead, but it is more likely to work with something as old as you are describing.
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Re: Windows 98
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2010, 04:41:14 PM »
That's exactly what I play on doing. Note the "virtual install" in my original post. Worst that happens is it doesn't run as well as I had hoped and I delete the virtual machine.

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Re: Windows 98
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2010, 04:46:04 PM »
You would get better XP support by design though...
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Re: Windows 98
« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2010, 05:00:21 PM »
Does anyone happen to still have a Windows 98 (preferably SE) install disc lying around they're willing to part with?
I have 98SE, 2k, and XP Pro. Which would you like?

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Re: Windows 98
« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2010, 05:38:52 PM »
I'd prefer 98 SE.

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Re: Windows 98
« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2010, 06:31:15 PM »
I am thrilled that ME was not mentioned.
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Re: Windows 98
« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2010, 06:54:35 PM »
That's because (IMHO) it wasn't an operating system.